Movin South... Silly yankee questions...

[IslandTractor]

We do not voice hatred of people who are not like us, we voice disdain for those who annoy the HE!! ouf of us! Yankee and southerner are just terms, it's individual ignorance that causes such animosity.....

Afraid I have to disagree and side with lukestafford on this one. Visiting southerners are virtually never held in disdain by northerners on the basis of simply hearing their accent while that is certainly not the case for northerners coming to the south. There is more prejudice in the south. Southerners are formally welcoming but actually almost as closed to outsiders as the nastiest denizen of Manhattan or South Boston. Being treacly sweet to your face but often quite nasty behind your back is a southern, not northern trait. What you see, grumpy or not, is what you get in the north.

 

[Texas Dawg]

You don't know what itching is until you have had your first encounter with chiggers/redbugs.

 

[newbury]

It's interesting how many people are talking about Texas and other states NOT INCLUDED in the three the OP listed. Do people read these threads BEFORE responding?

We are likely going to be moving to the Miss, Louisiana, Ark. area. <snip>

Three states listed.

Well thanks! I didn't expect such a good response... My company is most likely going to relocate us to one of those areas. I am extremely happy to be getting out of this state. I do like to hunt, and tend to mind my own business. I hope to make some new friends down there.

If you have ever had a state with 95% of the geographical area of the state opposed to something yet the crowded and liberal city control everything, New York is it! Most of my life, I have survived one business after another closing here in NY. I'm tired of struggling to make a living and being smothered by taxes. Finally working for a company that cares for it's people and is offering transfers out of it's generosity.

It sounds like we will adapt all right, We aren't church people, but are believers. I would rather fix a persons porch or whatever out of caring than go to church, but that's just us... Thank-you for all the replies! I'll be keeping the dog on the lawn and shaking out my boots!

OP - IF you have a choice of the three states investigate closely.
For instance Mississippi just did away with car inspections. That's right, NO inspections. No safety. Up to last year they had a mandatory annual inspection. This basically required you to drive to an inspection station, hand the inspector $5 and if you had a car he'd give you a sticker. Coming from Vermont and Virginia I was used to safety inspections where they actually checked things.

The number of cars driving with badly cracked windshields is increasing.

Check out the availability of comms - telephone, internet and television. Cell telephone reception here is spotty, many dead zones. Internet comes and goes. My local provider just dropped cable television and with a great antenna we only get 3 OTA stations, had to go to satellite which wimps out when it rains, so we can't see the radar.

Louisiana has a different legal system.

Louisiana's legal system is the only one in the US to be based on civil or Roman law, specifically the Code Napol駮n of France. Under Louisiana state law, cases may be decided by judicial interpretation of the statutes, without reference to prior court cases, whereas in other states and in the federal courts the common law prevails, and decisions are generally based on previous judicial interpretations and findings.

Louisiana - Judicial system

Again, on education, especially if you have children in school, note that Arkansas (#44 based on % of high school graduates), Louisiana (#45) and Mississippi (#49) rank near the bottom of

List of U.S. states by educational attainment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_educational_attainment
(Texas is #50).

 

[IslandTractor]

You don't know what itching is until you have had your first encounter with chiggers/redbugs.

I agree. We have both chiggers and plenty of deer ticks on our island. I don't worry about the ticks much but live in fear of chiggers. You can find a tick hours or even a day later and remove it without consequence (and this is a very high risk area for both Lyme Disease and Ehrlichiosis) but the darn chiggers get you and you don't even know it until you start to itch a day or so later. And the itching of a chigger bite goes on for many days and nights. I cringe at the thought of running into a nest of chiggers. Ugg!

 

[IslandTractor]

Yankees, as a rule are well accepted here; the problem comes when they display arrogance or contempt and try to tell us dumb Okies how we ought to be doing things that we're quite happy with. Attitude is everything. .

I think you have hit the nail on the head. Yankees are far more arrogant, contemptuous and bossy in their interpersonal dealings than southerners. They are certainly that way in New York and in Boston and they behave that way to each other ALL the time. Status quo. It is the nature of the culture. Gruff, direct and often overbearing. What southerners seem to miss is that an arrogant, contemptuous and bossy Yankee is not looking down on southerners. That is simply the social language they speak. There are no "fighting words" in the north because those words get used all the time and we are generally immune to overreaction when we hear them. F off just means the conversation has ended, it doesn't mean anything worse up here. And, if you can't stand Yankees, you certainly don't ever ever want to visit Israel. Same idea only squared.

 

[Texas Dawg]

"It's interesting how many people are talking about Texas and other states NOT INCLUDED in the three the OP listed. Do people read these threads BEFORE responding?"

Well since Texas border Louisiana and Arkansas, climate and culture are going to be very similar. Laws may vary but I would bet all the money I have that the weather, snakes, and bugs in Texarkana TX are going to be pretty much the same as in Texarkana AR. Same thing if I go west out of Shreveport LA, the weather will be pretty much the same in 10-15 minutes when I cross the state line into East Texas.

 

[Luke'sScreenName]

Don't you know EVERYTHING is ALWAYS about TEXAS.

It's funny, growing up, nobody in my area of Texas would have wanted to be identified a part of the South. That has changed now.

 

[lostcreekranch]

Don't you know EVERYTHING is ALWAYS about TEXAS. It's funny, growing up, nobody in my area of Texas would have wanted to be identified a part of the South. That has changed now.

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[TripleR]

I think you have hit the nail on the head. Yankees are far more arrogant, contemptuous and bossy in their interpersonal dealings than southerners. They are certainly that way in New York and in Boston and they behave that way to each other ALL the time. Status quo. It is the nature of the culture. Gruff, direct and often overbearing. What southerners seem to miss is that an arrogant, contemptuous and bossy Yankee is not looking down on southerners. That is simply the social language they speak. There are no "fighting words" in the north because those words get used all the time and we are generally immune to overreaction when we hear them. F off just means the conversation has ended, it doesn't mean anything worse up here. And, if you can't stand Yankees, you certainly don't ever ever want to visit Israel. Same idea only squared.

Interesting, is this pretty universal in all northern states, I've met quite a few in conferences or when they moved down here and didn't really notice it, but I've never been north of Chicago?

How are "southerners" going to know this is "status quo", do northerners expect southerners to simply accept "arrogant, contemptuous and bossy" behavior because of where someone lives or use to live? Which is the problem, southerners' interpretation of the "arrogant, contemptuous and bossy" behavior or the "arrogant, contemptuous and bossy" behavior? It "seems" from your post that northerners as you describe them expect that an in your face attitude should simply be accepted anywhere with the onus on the population rather than the individual.

Missouri is often considered southern by northerners and northern by southerners, so I find it all kind of interesting.

 

[CrownHawg]

Afraid I have to disagree and side with lukestafford on this one. Visiting southerners are virtually never held in disdain by northerners on the basis of simply hearing their accent while that is certainly not the case for northerners coming to the south. There is more prejudice in the south. Southerners are formally welcoming but actually almost as closed to outsiders as the nastiest denizen of Manhattan or South Boston. Being treacly sweet to your face but often quite nasty behind your back is a southern, not northern trait. What you see, grumpy or not, is what you get in the north.

I can only summize you have spent enough time here in the south to make this observation. And my thinking may be flawed since I have only spent brief periods of time in the "North". This is by choice after only a short time of experiencing the "hospitality" of the locals. I only know that down here in hickville, you can spot a transplanted "yankee" a mile away. Short on courtesy, most of the time condescending and generally inconvenienced by us "underlings". They will however quickly report how "backward" and "clanish" we are, all the while not returning to the land they cherish (the north). So yes, I guess we ARE "closed" so some.