Tresspassing neighbors

[Wagtail]

Right, but right before that he said "sorry, buddy". Unless they're actually buddies and I'm in the wrong here it seemed like an unnecessary post contradicting some great wisdom. Just like when you call me "mate" when saying I'm being unfair. If we're in agreement on something, sure, call me mate or buddy, but otherwise, that's condescending in my book.

Nope, I'm not being condescending at all when I call you 'mate' or refer to you as such. I'm keeping it friendly and 'peer to peer'. For the record, I'm in agreement with buckeyefarmer's statement and, from how I read Steppenwolfe's comment; he is too but with a cautionary 'tale to tell'.

I wasn't calling you "unfair", nor did I say that. I was simply asking you to re-examine his angle on buckeyefarmer's comment.

 

[motownbrowne]

Nope, I'm not being condescending at all when I call you 'mate' or refer to you as such. I'm keeping it friendly and 'peer to peer'. For the record, I'm in agreement with buckeyefarmer's statement and, from how I read Steppenwolfe's comment; he is too but with a cautionary 'tale to tell'.

I wasn't calling you "unfair", nor did I say that. I was simply asking you to re-examine his angle on buckeyefarmer's comment.

I appreciate that you aren't trying to come off as condescending.

To me, buckeye was right on in his post about being a good neighbor. For someone to respond in a post starting with "sorry buddy" means that they disagree. Otherwise, what are the sorry about? Same as when you say "to be fair" about my post. Doesn't that mean that you think I'm being unfair?

I'm sorry to keep dragging this through the mud, but I thought buckeye had a great point. No one's story about a bad neighbor can discredit it. The guy basically rephrased the golden rule. No "sorry buddy" comments are necessary or relevant.

I hope that this makes sense. I'm not trying to badger anyone, just trying to appreciate the good posts when they show up. I hope we can continue to work toward an understanding.

-Ryan

 

[Pirate]

Sorry, buddy. Not always. We moved to Virginia 3 years ago, bought 80 acres with a house in the middle. Our only close neighbor lives on the corner of the main road where my 2000 ft driveway starts. Everything was peachy keen until we had the property surveyed and staked. Turns out my property line is literally 25 ft off of his back deck. Now mind you, this is still quite a distance from my house. However he went ape **** and accused my surveyor of being a hack, and us of ruining his property. Meanwhile he was there years before us, and never bothered to do a survey himself. So, he demands that I give him 50 to 80 ft of land to make amends and be a good neighbor. Needless to say that never happened and he won't so much as wave when we go by. Thank God he is in Florida half the year, and we ignore him the other half.

I had a survey done to settle some issues. Anyway, close neighbor was outside when surveyor came around. The line between us ended up defined within a few inches of the neighbors driveway, which due to hillsides, effectively cut him off from driving his mower on one side of his property. He was pissed off to no end. Surveyor right then said get your own dang line and run it right now. Well, of course, neighbor was proven wrong, surveyor right. Neighbor ranted and raved how he would have never bought this place if he would have known the line was where it was. Right, like it was my fault all along. Anyway, 5 years later, we have not spoken a word. I think he is still pissed at me for defining what is MY land. This all started because I asked him in the beginning to do nothing with the side lot. I found him spraying all kinds of herbicides which I did not want on my land (I knew it was mine but wanted it surveyed none-the-less.)

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Right, but right before that he said "sorry, buddy". Unless they're actually buddies and I'm in the wrong here it seemed like an unnecessary post contradicting some great wisdom. Just like when you call me "mate" when saying I'm being unfair. If we're in agreement on something, sure, call me mate or buddy, but otherwise, that's condescending in my book.

Chill out, not always means not every time. Nothing condescending was implied. Good neighbors is an oxymoron, not a given by any means, as we are all human.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Nope, I'm not being condescending at all when I call you 'mate' or refer to you as such. I'm keeping it friendly and 'peer to peer'. For the record, I'm in agreement with buckeyefarmer's statement and, from how I read Steppenwolfe's comment; he is too but with a cautionary 'tale to tell'.

I wasn't calling you "unfair", nor did I say that. I was simply asking you to re-examine his angle on buckeyefarmer's comment.

Hey, you got it. And we don't even speak through same language! :thumbsup:

 

[Steppenwolfe]

I had a survey done to settle some issues. Anyway, close neighbor was outside when surveyor came around. The line between us ended up defined within a few inches of the neighbors driveway, which due to hillsides, effectively cut him off from driving his mower on one side of his property. He was pissed off to no end. Surveyor right then said get your own dang line and run it right now. Well, of course, neighbor was proven wrong, surveyor right. Neighbor ranted and raved how he would have never bought this place if he would have known the line was where it was. Right, like it was my fault all along. Anyway, 5 years later, we have not spoken a word. I think he is still pissed at me for defining what is MY land. This all started because I asked him in the beginning to do nothing with the side lot. I found him spraying all kinds of herbicides which I did not want on my land (I knew it was mine but wanted it surveyed none-the-less.)

There you go, I rest my case.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

I appreciate that you aren't trying to come off as condescending.

To me, buckeye was right on in his post about being a good neighbor. For someone to respond in a post starting with "sorry buddy" means that they disagree. Otherwise, what are the sorry about? Same as when you say "to be fair" about my post. Doesn't that mean that you think I'm being unfair?

I'm sorry to keep dragging this through the mud, but I thought buckeye had a great point. No one's story about a bad neighbor can discredit it. The guy basically rephrased the golden rule. No "sorry buddy" comments are necessary or relevant.

I hope that this makes sense. I'm not trying to badger anyone, just trying to appreciate the good posts when they show up. I hope we can continue to work toward an understanding.

-Ryan

Ryan, to be fair I should point out that prior to the survey, I told this man that since we would be neighbors VIRTUALLY anything I owned was available for him to use. And I have a lot of man toys, not to mention tools no home owner has. And, skills and knowledge no normal home owner has. He chose to throw that away because he was too cheap to pay for a survey before he built his house, and blamed me for ruining his property. So, I guess how good I was didn't really matter, did it ?

 

[motownbrowne]

Ryan, to be fair I should point out that prior to the survey, I told this man that since we would be neighbors VIRTUALLY anything I owned was available for him to use. And I have a lot of man toys, not to mention tools no home owner has. And, skills and knowledge no normal home owner has. He chose to throw that away because he was too cheap to pay for a survey before he built his house, and blamed me for ruining his property. So, I guess how good I was didn't really matter, did it ?

Right, yeah I get what you're saying, and I'm by no means trying to discredit your experience. That's not my point. All I'm getting at is that in your post you might have said "that's true, but sometimes despite being a good neighbor..." I'm just saying that starting the post with "sorry buddy" makes it seem like you're disagreeing with the post you quoted. And when that post is a rephrasing of the golden rule, that isn't right.

Nothing personal here, Wagtail, I was just noticing your posts about fire extinguishers in another thread, and steppenwolfe, I've appreciated your posts on the subject of MX Kubotas before.

 

[sld]

Ryan, to be fair I should point out that prior to the survey, I told this man that since we would be neighbors VIRTUALLY anything I owned was available for him to use. And I have a lot of man toys, not to mention tools no home owner has. And, skills and knowledge no normal home owner has. He chose to throw that away because he was too cheap to pay for a survey before he built his house, and blamed me for ruining his property. So, I guess how good I was didn't really matter, did it ?

I bet you do!

 

[Wagtail]

Nothing personal here, Wagtail...

She's apples mate, fair dinkum. No worries.*



*Translation: It's all good my friend, honestly. Think nothing more of it.

Language can be (and is) a funny thing. Indeed, some things can be lost in translation even between someone in Virginia and Wisconsin, eh?