Tier 4

   / Tier 4 #142  
I like my tier 4 Branson. DOC with mechanical injection! The only computer is to monitor the health of the DOC.
 
   / Tier 4 #143  
The first 22 years of my engineering career involved combines where we left our exhaust behind us, well behind us. With Cat I was where to send the exhaust so you don't kill the crew, a requirement from our customers.

LOL! Thanks for the good info all the way around.
 
   / Tier 4 #144  

Hey that's me!

For what its worth, there is a HUGE amount of marginally correct or flat out wrong information in this thread. I don't have the hours it would take to correct it all, but for what its worth... information gleaned from internet forums should not be considered gospel.
 
   / Tier 4 #145  
Hey that's me! For what its worth, there is a HUGE amount of marginally correct or flat out wrong information in this thread. I don't have the hours it would take to correct it all, but for what its worth... information gleaned from internet forums should not be considered gospel.

What do you mean, It's on the Internet so it has to be true!!! :)
 
   / Tier 4 #146  
Hey that's me!

For what its worth, there is a HUGE amount of marginally correct or flat out wrong information in this thread. I don't have the hours it would take to correct it all, but for what its worth... information gleaned from internet forums should not be considered gospel.

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In all seriousness I for one appreciate the candid and thorough explanations and videos that are produced and provided by Messick's and others with superior knowledge on any topic. These tools provide great info for all of us who are learning and trying to find the information we require to make good decisions to address our individual needs. Thank you for sharing.

I believe at the end of the day that most all tractors are very good machines with very good technologies. Each and every brand or size has its pros and cons. What can really help make the overall experience of owning and operating a tractor truly great is having a good and knowledgeable dealer nearby to help keep the wheels turning. It's as important, if not more so, than one off features or minor technological differences between brands. (And of course it also nice to have input from many individuals on TBN helping out by sharing their opinions and experiences.) I believe that good dealers and our knowledgeable compadres on TBN will still be around and useful as we progress through the next 15 tiers of diesel emissions requirements in the coming decades!
 
   / Tier 4 #147  
Hey that's me!

For what its worth, there is a HUGE amount of marginally correct or flat out wrong information in this thread. I don't have the hours it would take to correct it all, but for what its worth... information gleaned from internet forums should not be considered gospel.
Excellent video, cleared up a ton of questions for me.
Can I ask you a couple questions?
On the older model tractor where the must depress button to engage auto regen, what happens when they do not?
 
   / Tier 4 #148  
Going to go out on a limb again. I think you are going to see gas engines offered in your light/utility tractors. The hobby farm/residential owners are going to have a hard time justifying the increase in purchase and maintenance costs for diesel. Cummins did not jump into bed with westport for grins. Cummins Westport - About Us Yes, Cummins has gas engines in there product line. A Cummins Gasoline Engine? - Diesel Progress - July 2014 So, Cummins has had a good relationship with New Holland. My prediction is you will see gas fired engines in New Holland tractors sooner than latter. Maybe some other tractor manufacturer first, but it just makes sense.
Steve
Let me ADD that Cummins also has an emissions division. So, even though it is not there engine it maybe there controls.
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   / Tier 4 #149  
Excellent video, cleared up a ton of questions for me.
Can I ask you a couple questions?
On the older model tractor where the must depress button to engage auto regen, what happens when they do not?

lights will flash on the dash once the DPF restricts telling them to do it, if they ignore that and keep running eventually they will end up in "limp" mode, if they still keep running it shuts down and you need a laptop to recover the machine.

we probably see as many problems with these systems from simple operator ignorance than we do from actual mechanical issues.
 
   / Tier 4 #150  
lights will flash on the dash once the DPF restricts telling them to do it, if they ignore that and keep running eventually they will end up in "limp" mode, if they still keep running it shuts down and you need a laptop to recover the machine.

we probably see as many problems with these systems from simple operator ignorance than we do from actual mechanical issues.

Spoken like a true retailer.....:eek:
 

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