Retirement Question

   / Retirement Question #131  
There is about twenty different plans and results in this thread and the message has to be that everyone has their own best course of action.
I'll add in mine here just for reference.
I took a state government job at age 20 in late 1975 that had a guaranteed retirement plan. I didn't think much of it at the time as I did not think the job would last and was living pay check to paycheck. But a wife , three children and thirty years later there I was looking at the rules of the system and quite tired of the job frankly. It paid one sixtieth per year of service times the average of your three highest years and healthcare for you and your spouse was paid fully after thirty years of service. But if you were not sixty years old at retirement they deducted three percent for each year you were younger. And all your unpaid leave was paid out in the last year and added to your last years income.
I had three very good years with lots of overtime ( that nobody else wanted to do including night work) so had no time to take any leave and had all those balances up to the maximum. So I had three years with over IIRCC 500 plus hours of OT per year plus had $27,000 of leave paid out when I left. But then because I was only 51 years old I took a 27 percent cut and then a bit more to make it last until the last of my wife or myself and I cashed in and I ended up with just about half of my base pay which was low considering that I had always worked some overtime, often 300 hours a year or more.
Shortly after I retired they changed the rules and started donning me for a couple of hundred per month on health care and the COLAs that used to happen yearly have stopped but all in all I'm a lot better off then most and in ten years have got back every dime I paid in and then some.
I had my house and everything else paid for and looked at it like this. Of my old pay checks six percent went to retirement and eighteen percent went to federal tax and four and a half percent went to state tax, and I was spending twenty-one and a half percent on transportation and meals during the work day so at fifty percent I was just as poor (Or rich) as I ever was. After retirement I have worked at least part of every year doing what I used to do only for private firms (sometimes working for my old employer) at rates that used to be my overtime rate so have done quite well so far and have a few toys (Tractor) to show for it.
I'm planning to draw early social security a year from now as the math works for us as I have diabetes and my younger brother has already passed away (smoker with diabetes) and my mother passed at age fifty (diabetes). The earned income limit for me $13,500 IIRCC is annoying as I could not commit to doing a job start to finish but then again I've done this work so long I wont miss it.
Back when I first told my wife that I was planning to retire she got in a huff and said that we were not old enough to retire. I answered " What is this WE Stuff you're talking about. She is still working making us twenty percenters and all the children are fully employed at levels where they could " Support us in the manner to which we have become accustomed".
 
   / Retirement Question #132  
Nice to hear where all the pieces came together to make it work...

It is hard to know when to leave for those that have the option... for others it simply happens and we deal the best we can.

Retirement and a tractor sounds good...
 
   / Retirement Question #134  
Yes! Heaven on earth :D

I don't know about that.... I'm outside up here in Michigan standing out on my drive area making rivers in the ice like an eight year old. A little over 50 degrees up here above the 45th parallel. Sun is so bright I have to wear sunglasses. Birds are flying around chirping and making so much noise it's hard to think. Put the backhoe on my tractor yesterday and spent the morning idling around breaking trail in about 18" of snow out on my walking trails. So, if you remember how much fun you had as a kid making rivers in the mud.... then.... geez... I guess it is OK....
 
   / Retirement Question #135  
What is a huge amount Dan?. ...

Well, I won't say the actual amount to other people but it is far more than people are mentioning. I did ask them if I was remembering the number they mentioned correctly and I was. I don't know why they seem to be paying more. My mom has had two serious illnesses and maybe they are paying higher rates as a result or they are buying more coverage. :confused3:

Later,
Dan
 
   / Retirement Question #136  
The wife and I both retired from the local power company with pensions.I had 38 years of service she had 32 years.Had 4 kids to raise also.We both put into our 401K for about 25-30 years.We never lived beyond our means and had NO credit cards.We payed cash for purchases most of the time or we did not need them.Payed our 30 year mortgage off in 15 years,no car payments.The trick to retirement, try to retire with NO MAJOR DEBT..
 
   / Retirement Question #137  
The local blogs and news stories are going after those 55 and older that saved and planned for retirement... saying the average retired person has more income than the average 30 year old... sounds crazy to me...

Guess we will have to wait 30 years to see how that pans out.
 
   / Retirement Question #138  
Well, I won't say the actual amount to other people but it is far more than people are mentioning. I did ask them if I was remembering the number they mentioned correctly and I was. I don't know why they seem to be paying more. My mom has had two serious illnesses and maybe they are paying higher rates as a result or they are buying more coverage. :confused3:

Later,
Dan

There would not be any more coverage than I outlined. If they are paying more than I outlined, then something is not right. A Plan G pays all but the $166 annual part B premium. It pays everything else. A plan F does pay that $166 annual premium but is not really cost effective over a plan G in my opinion. (I have a calculator:)) Also a plan G is a G is a G just like an F is an F is an F don't matter who you get them from as long as they actually pay. All the same plans are the same. I think you need to call an insurance agent you trust and have their plans and coverage gone over. I would be happy to do that if they lived in my state, but I bet they dont'.
 
   / Retirement Question #139  
In 1994 I took a job at the local community college teaching. I will have 25 years in at 60 and can retire with full benefits. I plan for the wife to retire at 62 and I may hang it up at 62 or go on a few more years. With summers off we can take vacations so my situation is certainly different from many folk. Our current retirement formula calculates out to 55% of current salary with 30 years of service. That plus social security and our income will be very similar to current levels unless the state changes the funding formulas. Our insurance once paid 100% for an 80/20 plan but now that is only a 70/30 plan. Hopefully I can make it to 65 if my health holds up.
 
   / Retirement Question #140  
Whatever you do plan, plan, plan.

Know what your expenses are. Know what your income will be. Allow for inflation.

Pay off your debts before you retire. When the last plant I worked at closed we had a meeting and of the fifteen or so supervisors in the office I was the only one that had my house paid off. And all the guys were older and made more money.

Had one guy that had just bought a $100K motorhome and was planning on adding to his house "for the grandkids to have more room when they visited". He was in his late sixties and in debt up to his eyebrows.

Use common sense and you can live well and enjoy life.

RSKY
 

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