Retirement Question

/ Retirement Question #121  
Knowing that there are a bunch of TBN'ers that are retired, I'm looking for some thoughts. I reached full pension eligibility a couple months ago. At 56, I'm not done working but looking at other options that take me away from my current job ( 30+ years with the same employer) which has lost a number of the attributes which made it a great job just a few years ago. I'm certainly not miserable but just not having as much fun as I once did.
My question: before you decided to retire from your "career" job, what percentage of your "fully employed" income was necessary as a retirement income?

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We interviewed 3 different companies and found one we liked, usually the 1st hour is free. They will run the numbers for you and let you know when you can retire. We have been working with an advisor for 18 years. We went to her and she ran the numbers and said why are you working? If you have medical plan, house paid off and owe little why not.

Exactly what I did at 56 1/2. I quit my job, took all my retirement money and invested it through a financial advisor. I pulled 2000 a month and went back and worked part time for my employer... been doing that over 10 years now, last year carefully staying below the SS threshold.....hourly, no benefits (don't need them) and I work when I want to basically. I'm 66 now so I can make up to 40 grand in addition to SS with no penalty, but I don't need it.

I fish in the summer, hunt in the winter, camp and ride motorcycles...and farm a bit. I'm on SS now and froze my stipend. I still have over 100 grand in the account... for hunting trips or a new car is I need one.

One house paid off another (rental property almost paid off). Life is good, enjoy it. It only lasts so long....

I wouldn't have done it any other way.

Take a tape measure and run it out to 100. Lock it. Look back at the beginning of the tape and put your finger on your age..... Then look at 100. You ain't gonna make 100. All that time between your age and 1, you already wasted. The difference between your age and 100 isn't all that much.... better make the most of it.....I am.:thumbsup:
 
/ Retirement Question #122  
Good advice!

I retired at 55. I planned it 32 years.
The money you need varies greatly. General ideas are... with no pension 13 times your annual income. w/pension 70 / 80% of your annual income. Does your pension keep up with inflation?
The biggest concern for me was the money disappearing from the economy.

Does this general guideline count or not count on drawing SS? Reason I ask is if it counts as the pension spoken of or its being counted on in addition to a retirement pension.

Thank you,
Lenny
 
/ Retirement Question #123  
Heart disease runs throughout some families and it's not necessarily the genes but the passed down recipes. I know you are just kidding about the bacon grease but in keeping in touch with the Cardiac Rehabilitation center of the hospital out here, their business has double along with their staff since I have been there. People refuse to change their life significantly even after their third visit in CR. (A lot are not yet retired.)

So the lesson to learn is - when you retire to be ready to make changes in you life as they become necessary. Even though it's best to have insurance or the income to do it, you also need the time to do the research which is what you have more of when you retire.


Watched the show last night...... Super depressing flick! Portrays a grim outlook and ties health issues with food. I am in the boat with the rest of America as far as eating habits; I can see change is in order for my well being.

Perhaps I need to plant a more diversified crop in the garden and explore some different meal options that include more veggies.

Only because "I hate going to the DR's office", motive- enough to make the change in itself! Thanks for the enlightenment as I was muddling along with the general public.
 
/ Retirement Question #125  
As others have said, this thread contains a wealth of info. Like many others, I started a spreadsheet a few years before retirement and tracked my expenses to arrive at an understanding not only of how much they were but where the money was going. I've been using Quicken for years, and it was fairly painless to do the work. But putting it all into that spreadsheet gave it a more meaningful context that related directly to my retirement goal.

I've led a pretty fulfilling life so far, and didn't plan on any major changes in retirement, other than getting out of a major urban area. I happened to find a nice house in a great location in an area with a significantly lower cost of living. At least for most things, as my auto insurance went up because people here are more likely to drive drunk or hit a deer, and my house is more likely to burn down if a wildfire comes my way. I was able to take advantage of the housing bubble bursting because I had my spreadsheet and knew what my expenses would be. A good realtor helped me understand what my old house was worth, and when I found a retirement home at half that price I knew I was capable of retiring. A micro managing manager and a string of unhealthy checkups were enough to close the deal, and I retired at age 54.

Fast forward 6 years next month, and things are still on an even keel. My expenses have tracked pretty true to the old spreadsheet, and though my portfolio hasn't exactly set the world on fire, it's still managed to grow a bit in that time. Like many here, I have no trouble staying busy, but now it's doing things I mostly enjoy and quite a few things I never would have had time for before retirement. And that's probably the biggest return I've realized from retirement, finally getting around to all those wishes while I'm still healthy enough to enjoy them. All that time chasing a paycheck obscured that reality. Usta be I had more money than time, now it's reversed. But the important thing is that I have more time and enough money.

Going forward, my biggest concern is keeping up with medical expenses. Once I qualify for Medicare, my employee health insurance stops and I'll be at the mercy of whatever cockeyed scheme our so called leaders have dreamed up. I have no doubt that my premiums will increase well beyond the $140/month I pay now, and on a fixed income (no COLA with my pension) that's a daunting prospect.

I'm getting a bit of a preview of how it might look at the end, as my deceased mother's 87 year old partner has recently moved into an assisted living facility capable of caring for those afflicted with dementia. His pension and SS come to about $1500 a month, and the cost of his care is more than double that. With only about $100K in savings, it won't be too long before it's gone. But when he gets down to $80K he'll qualify for a veteran's benefit that will make it last a bit longer. I'm helping to sell off a piece of land he owns as well as most of his other possessions to further strengthen his financial position. The only saving grace is that he retired about 20 years ago and has had some time to enjoy life. And at the end, that's what really matters, isn't it?
 
/ Retirement Question #126  
One thing influenced me more than anything else in retiring early. My dad was planning on working until he was 65. My brothers-in-law influenced him to retire at 62. He was super healthy, never sick. He died three weeks before his 65th birthday. He did have 2-1/2 great years before he got sick.
 
/ Retirement Question #127  
My Dad never retired... worked everyday except for the last two in hospital where he passed away just a week short of 74.

He wanted to keep the family business going and that turned out to be a mistake because his partner stepped right in and liquidated...

Dad was not able to let go because he spent a lifetime building it...

On the other hand... he really looked out for Mom... wanted to make sure the house was paid up and delayed his Social Security so she would have more...
 
/ Retirement Question #129  
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/ Retirement Question #131  
There is about twenty different plans and results in this thread and the message has to be that everyone has their own best course of action.
I'll add in mine here just for reference.
I took a state government job at age 20 in late 1975 that had a guaranteed retirement plan. I didn't think much of it at the time as I did not think the job would last and was living pay check to paycheck. But a wife , three children and thirty years later there I was looking at the rules of the system and quite tired of the job frankly. It paid one sixtieth per year of service times the average of your three highest years and healthcare for you and your spouse was paid fully after thirty years of service. But if you were not sixty years old at retirement they deducted three percent for each year you were younger. And all your unpaid leave was paid out in the last year and added to your last years income.
I had three very good years with lots of overtime ( that nobody else wanted to do including night work) so had no time to take any leave and had all those balances up to the maximum. So I had three years with over IIRCC 500 plus hours of OT per year plus had $27,000 of leave paid out when I left. But then because I was only 51 years old I took a 27 percent cut and then a bit more to make it last until the last of my wife or myself and I cashed in and I ended up with just about half of my base pay which was low considering that I had always worked some overtime, often 300 hours a year or more.
Shortly after I retired they changed the rules and started donning me for a couple of hundred per month on health care and the COLAs that used to happen yearly have stopped but all in all I'm a lot better off then most and in ten years have got back every dime I paid in and then some.
I had my house and everything else paid for and looked at it like this. Of my old pay checks six percent went to retirement and eighteen percent went to federal tax and four and a half percent went to state tax, and I was spending twenty-one and a half percent on transportation and meals during the work day so at fifty percent I was just as poor (Or rich) as I ever was. After retirement I have worked at least part of every year doing what I used to do only for private firms (sometimes working for my old employer) at rates that used to be my overtime rate so have done quite well so far and have a few toys (Tractor) to show for it.
I'm planning to draw early social security a year from now as the math works for us as I have diabetes and my younger brother has already passed away (smoker with diabetes) and my mother passed at age fifty (diabetes). The earned income limit for me $13,500 IIRCC is annoying as I could not commit to doing a job start to finish but then again I've done this work so long I wont miss it.
Back when I first told my wife that I was planning to retire she got in a huff and said that we were not old enough to retire. I answered " What is this WE Stuff you're talking about. She is still working making us twenty percenters and all the children are fully employed at levels where they could " Support us in the manner to which we have become accustomed".
 
/ Retirement Question #132  
Nice to hear where all the pieces came together to make it work...

It is hard to know when to leave for those that have the option... for others it simply happens and we deal the best we can.

Retirement and a tractor sounds good...
 
/ Retirement Question #134  
Yes! Heaven on earth :D

I don't know about that.... I'm outside up here in Michigan standing out on my drive area making rivers in the ice like an eight year old. A little over 50 degrees up here above the 45th parallel. Sun is so bright I have to wear sunglasses. Birds are flying around chirping and making so much noise it's hard to think. Put the backhoe on my tractor yesterday and spent the morning idling around breaking trail in about 18" of snow out on my walking trails. So, if you remember how much fun you had as a kid making rivers in the mud.... then.... geez... I guess it is OK....
 
/ Retirement Question #135  
What is a huge amount Dan?. ...

Well, I won't say the actual amount to other people but it is far more than people are mentioning. I did ask them if I was remembering the number they mentioned correctly and I was. I don't know why they seem to be paying more. My mom has had two serious illnesses and maybe they are paying higher rates as a result or they are buying more coverage. :confused3:

Later,
Dan
 
/ Retirement Question #136  
The wife and I both retired from the local power company with pensions.I had 38 years of service she had 32 years.Had 4 kids to raise also.We both put into our 401K for about 25-30 years.We never lived beyond our means and had NO credit cards.We payed cash for purchases most of the time or we did not need them.Payed our 30 year mortgage off in 15 years,no car payments.The trick to retirement, try to retire with NO MAJOR DEBT..
 
/ Retirement Question #137  
The local blogs and news stories are going after those 55 and older that saved and planned for retirement... saying the average retired person has more income than the average 30 year old... sounds crazy to me...

Guess we will have to wait 30 years to see how that pans out.
 
/ Retirement Question #138  
Well, I won't say the actual amount to other people but it is far more than people are mentioning. I did ask them if I was remembering the number they mentioned correctly and I was. I don't know why they seem to be paying more. My mom has had two serious illnesses and maybe they are paying higher rates as a result or they are buying more coverage. :confused3:

Later,
Dan

There would not be any more coverage than I outlined. If they are paying more than I outlined, then something is not right. A Plan G pays all but the $166 annual part B premium. It pays everything else. A plan F does pay that $166 annual premium but is not really cost effective over a plan G in my opinion. (I have a calculator:)) Also a plan G is a G is a G just like an F is an F is an F don't matter who you get them from as long as they actually pay. All the same plans are the same. I think you need to call an insurance agent you trust and have their plans and coverage gone over. I would be happy to do that if they lived in my state, but I bet they dont'.
 
/ Retirement Question #139  
In 1994 I took a job at the local community college teaching. I will have 25 years in at 60 and can retire with full benefits. I plan for the wife to retire at 62 and I may hang it up at 62 or go on a few more years. With summers off we can take vacations so my situation is certainly different from many folk. Our current retirement formula calculates out to 55% of current salary with 30 years of service. That plus social security and our income will be very similar to current levels unless the state changes the funding formulas. Our insurance once paid 100% for an 80/20 plan but now that is only a 70/30 plan. Hopefully I can make it to 65 if my health holds up.
 
/ Retirement Question #140  
Whatever you do plan, plan, plan.

Know what your expenses are. Know what your income will be. Allow for inflation.

Pay off your debts before you retire. When the last plant I worked at closed we had a meeting and of the fifteen or so supervisors in the office I was the only one that had my house paid off. And all the guys were older and made more money.

Had one guy that had just bought a $100K motorhome and was planning on adding to his house "for the grandkids to have more room when they visited". He was in his late sixties and in debt up to his eyebrows.

Use common sense and you can live well and enjoy life.

RSKY
 

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