Best motorcycle forum?

[Zerk]

Only that my BMW is apparently proving to be more reliable then your Kawasaki long after the warranty has expired. I guess you should have bought a K100 instead.

The Concours since it 2001 may be more reliable then a 2001 BMW. Not sure if they were still good or not at that point.

I don't care if the dealership makes me a steak dinner and sends the part girl over when they are fixining my bike. Either way it is a failure. I call it reliability, maybe you could call it bad quality control. But if the bike has to go back to the dealer for warranty work, I call that bad. Not sure why you don't. I am not talking 30 year old bikes with all the bugs worked out. I am talking new bike that fail, and have to be returned.

I think Harley has a similar problem last few years too, they have been getting cheaper. I havent followed it lately, but about the same time BMW started failing Harley started cheaping out and having warranty problems. Like BMW once you get the bugs worked out, they go forever. What has steered me back to Harley is the stories I have heard about working on the newer BMWs.

The older airheads were simplier. I would maybe consider one, but if I got a BMW I kind of want performance, not a 30 year outdated bike. Also the storage on the touring bikes sucks. GLs are probably king there. The new Vics though have alot of space, as do the dresser Harleys. I like big bikes with lots of storage for groceries.


But you can't have to many bikes. Though I may go down to 2 this year.

 

[Garandman]

I think I agree with that, Adventure Rider looks like a great place to read or tell about what people are doing on their motorcycles. Probably not the best place to go ask a question.

It's a GREAT place to ask questions, but for someone only interested in a cruiser-style, they're not going to like the answers. It's a form-follow-function kind of place, while the cruiser market is mostly about style.

The Face Plant forum there is terrific. People write post-mortems on their motorcycle accidents. You can learn a great deal about what not to do, why protective gear works and wat doesn't, and what training or techniques are effective at staying out of an accident in the first place.

There are some tragic posts (a guy who got hit from behind on a bike with a top case, that broke his back) and some hilarious ones, like the guy who hit a burro going 65mph two-up and slid 150+ yards on his side, wearing his safety gear down to threads.

Face Plant | Adventure Rider

And the "Perfect Line and other myths" forum is about riding techniques that apply to any bike.

The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths | Adventure Rider

I had an HD Roadster for a while and HDForums was pretty good for things like parts and maintenance. For sample, the 2005 I had has a tendency to launch the $110 oil cover at highway speeds. They suggested replacing it with a 2007 cover, which had better clips, and using some cable ties to help keep it in place as well.

 

[Garandman]

Only since 1986

Considering many motorcycles don't even come with a warranty or are very poor at supporting their product when a claim is made, I find it difficult to hold it against a manufacture when they successfully stand behind the materials and workmanship in they products.

Those K bikes are crazy durable. I belong to a BMW club (though I don't own one) and there are lots of them with over 100,000 miles. They're also very inexpensive used.

 

[Garandman]

The older airheads were simplier. I would maybe consider one, but if I got a BMW I kind of want performance, not a 30 year outdated bike.//

I rode a BMW S1000RR at NJMP in track day sessions and was backing off at 145mph on the straight: the fast guys were hitting up to 160. Fast enough for you?

BMW has a whole series of bikes using detuned versions of the [199hp] S1000RR power plant, as well as six cylinder, 160hp K1600's, and the boxer 1200's are now water-cooled and have up to 125hp.

It's fair to say BMW's are expensive or complicated (or sophisticated), but to say they lack performance against any other brand is hard to defend. They also come with three year, 36,000 mile warranties.

BMW has recorded record sales for more than nine consecutive quarters and new success in the US. Perhaps the US market is finally moving on from chrome barges.

BTW I've owned six different brands of bike and currently own three brands, none BMW, so no dog in the fight. The only major brand I haven't owned is Ducati. My primary street bike at the moment is a Triumph and dirt bike, Yamaha.

 

[Trials]

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It's fair to say BMW's are expensive or complicated (or sophisticated), but to say they lack performance against any other brand is hard to defend. They also come with three year, 36,000 mile warranties...

Oh, oh, that could spell big trouble for the brands reliability statistics, imagine all the additional warranty claims they would accumulate as a result of having a warranty that is 3 or more times longer then the competition :laughing:

 

[Trials]

It's a GREAT place to ask questions...

OK, you convinced me to join the forum for riders obsessed with really big luggage :dumptruck:

 

[Gary Fowler]

I thought they moved production some 3rd world Asian country.

I wouldn't call Japan a third world country. Honda did move their production of their flagship model Goldwing from the USA to Japan after decades of building it in the USA. (Reason not clear for the move)

 

[Zerk]

I wouldn't call Japan a third world country. Honda did move their production of their flagship model Goldwing from the USA to Japan after decades of building it in the USA. (Reason not clear for the move)

I don't think they moved to Japan. I read at the time they moved GL production Cambodia or Thailand.

I rode a BMW S1000RR at NJMP in track day sessions and was backing off at 145mph on the straight: the fast guys were hitting up to 160. Fast enough for you?
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I didn't say speed, I said technoogy. If I got BMW I'd like one with ABS or modern braking, modern suspension, ect.


My interest is mostly touring bikes. I like alot of bikes, but not enough to spend money on them. I was looking DS for awhile, but bought a side by side.

Can't have to many bikes, so not saying I would never have one.

 

[Trials]

I find it hard to imagine Honda ever moving production of its all time largest motorcycle to Cambodia :|

There would be zero local market, they would need to import 100% of the machinery and high tech parts then export 100% of the product. I think Mr.Honda is much smarter then that.

Wikipedia says they are made in Kikuchi, Kumamoto Japan since 2011, I find that slightly more believable.

 

[Zerk]

I find it hard to imagine Honda ever moving production of its all time largest motorcycle to Cambodia :|

There would be zero local market, they would need to import 100% of the machinery and high tech parts then export 100% of the product. I think Mr.Honda is much smarter then that.

China makes alot of stuff, that it sells outside of China.

We disagree on logic deductions quite a bit. Putting up funny pictures, doesn't make a logical arguement. Though maybe it made mine. They were lookig for cheap labor.