Where does it stop?

   / Where does it stop? #41  
HST is the all around better choice for most compact tractors. A good HST ( not all HST transmissions are created equal) can pull equally as hard as a geared on a compact tractors. A HST is a little slower for something like plowing, but on average HST is way faster. My tractor puts out 1.5 more pto HP in a gear model. That doesn't seem very significant to me. A gear might drive up a hill faster or pull a plow across the field faster, but a HST can do everything a gear can do usually better.
 
   / Where does it stop? #42  
Gear is better or some things and HST is better for some things. People could debate that forever. The only thing that got me was the recommendation that the HST was not a good choice for hilly terrain. Nothing could be further from the truth. When in fact it is just the opposite.
 
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#43  
Well I had folks with whole lot of experience say otherwise. People who've spent their lives on tractors of all makes and models. People who sell, service and drive them all, including the salesman with 40 years who had previously been pushing me toward HST until I brought up the terrain factor. Bear in mind I was sitting on the HST at the dealership while he had to go and fetch the shuttle from the distributor, where I drove it, then sell it to me for a grand less. I didn't really care either way, I just wanted to get what was right for my needs and terrain.
I'm beginning to think that this whole shuttle/hydro thing is more about personal preference than anything else.

All that said I got the shuttle after driving both and I actually thought the shuttle was easier to drive than the somewhat awkward and uncomfortable rocker pedal. I think a two pedal setup would likely have been better but it isn't offered on on that model. Even on flat ground the rocker actually felt uncomfortable and clumsy for me so I think it might need some work yet. It doesn't matter a whole lot because I won't be doing a lot of back and forth nor do I have great distances to drive at any speed. I'll likely spend most of my time with the seat turned around digging at stumps.

Being into rock crawling, I'm pretty comfortalbe with gear boxes and know how to feather a clutch, when to use 4WD and when and when not to lock up an axle along with how and when to use cutting brakes. I've also developed a pretty good sense of bottom end pucker factor when it comes to flopping and rolling over.

No higher truth can be said.
 
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#44  
Today is a stormy, rainy day. I had to leave the computer turned off for a while as power was going on and off. Looking around, and thinking about it as well what gets said here, I think I should go back to the 25-27 hp tractors and then buy a separate backhoe of much larger size. Like the Woodmaxx 8600 and put it on an axle with a hitch. Then I can put the hoe spoils into the loader bucket and set them aside if I'm going thru a lawn or some sensitive areas. I also then allows me to use a blade on the back while at the same time having a backhoe handy. I'll see if I can call woodmaxx monday morning. That's a lot of backhoe for less money than a tractor brand of the hp size.
 
   / Where does it stop? #46  
Maybe it's in the (rain) water down here but I swear tractors shrink when encountering their first rain shower under new ownership. My 76HP was 'a bit too big for my needs' initially, but it got smaller somehow and now feels like my previous (50HP) tractor.:confused2:

It also burns about the same amount of fuel. Maybe even less. I drove it for 4.5hrs on the road yesterday to its next job. Not even half a tank of diesel (so about NZ$20 of fuel). Given the transporter wanted over $600 for the move, even if I lost a few hundred dollars worth of rubber, it was still worth it. Was nice to take in the slow-moving, largely rural view on a sunny Sunday.
 
   / Where does it stop? #47  
If I were buying new tractor today, I would probably be leaning toward a power reverser type transmission. With synchronized mains.
 
   / Where does it stop? #49  
I'd like to see a gear tractor do this without cursing by the time the job was over. I bush hogged this pond dam and had to back up and down it on both sides. I had to change directions on the hill which is about 25 degrees at the steepest. I can also back down to the water at any speed I want.

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   / Where does it stop? #50  
I'd like to see a gear tractor do this without cursing by the time the job was over. I bush hogged this pond dam and had to back up and down it on both sides. I had to change directions on the hill which is about 25 degrees at the steepest. I can also back down to the water at any speed I want.

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I agree mowing the pond bank is easier with a hydro. All you can do is offer your opinion on the differences between the hydro and gear transmission. Some people get it and some have to learn everything the hard way.
 

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