Questions on 2016 F250

[bdog]

I traded my 2015 F-250 CC short bed 4x4 with the 6.2 last week. It was decent truck but switched to a diesel because it tows a lot. Empty the 6.2 would get around 16 on the highway but towing even a modest trailer the MPGs were single digits.It had plenty of power even with a 10k trailer.

Definitely watch your pin weight. Does not take much to exceed your GVWR on a 250. I would get a 350 if having a GVWR over 10k doesn't cause legal issues for you.

 

[GManBart]

My work truck is a 2014 F150 XL 4x4 Super Crew 6.5' bed with the 5.0L V8 (385hp and 387Lb/Ft of torque) with the 3.55 limited slip rear axle. I've only towed 4,500lbs with it, and I can't imagine towing the kinds of loads you're talking about with the 6.2L gasser that has the same horsepower and a bit more torque (405Lb-Ft). I guess if it was a couple of times a year it would be one thing, but multiple times a month...no way.

On the flip side, I also regularly drive an F550 that weighs right at 13,000lbs with the 6.7L derated diesel (chassis cab models only have 300hp and 660Lb-Ft of torque) and I think it has the 4.10 rear axle, but I'm not certain. At 13K it's not straining at all...no constant downshifts, no racing engine, and it's generally much more relaxing to drive.

 

[ovrszd]

What do y'all think the gas mileage difference will be unloaded between 3.37 and 4.3 axels?

Edit: It's a 3.73 ratio not 3.37

I think unless you are trying to cruise at high speeds, speed limit and above, you'll not see much difference. Might even see an improvement with the 4.3 gears. Your engine choice needs some rpms to develop it's HP/Torque. If you selected a diesel I would think the opposite.

 

[ovrszd]

My work truck is a 2014 F150 XL 4x4 Super Crew 6.5' bed with the 5.0L V8 (385hp and 387Lb/Ft of torque) with the 3.55 limited slip rear axle. I've only towed 4,500lbs with it, and I can't imagine towing the kinds of loads you're talking about with the 6.2L gasser that has the same horsepower and a bit more torque (405Lb-Ft). I guess if it was a couple of times a year it would be one thing, but multiple times a month...no way.

On the flip side, I also regularly drive an F550 that weighs right at 13,000lbs with the 6.7L derated diesel (chassis cab models only have 300hp and 660Lb-Ft of torque) and I think it has the 4.10 rear axle, but I'm not certain. At 13K it's not straining at all...no constant downshifts, no racing engine, and it's generally much more relaxing to drive.

I don't hear many people brag about how well their 5.0L tows. I also don't think there's much comparison between the 5.0L/6.2L. Statistics are often irrelevant in towing situations. I believe his choice will work. It'll just require more rpms to do it than a diesel. Nature of the beast I guess.

 

[GManBart]

I don't hear many people brag about how well their 5.0L tows. I also don't think there's much comparison between the 5.0L/6.2L. Statistics are often irrelevant in towing situations. I believe his choice will work. It'll just require more rpms to do it than a diesel. Nature of the beast I guess.

No argument with any of that (the F150 is normally only used to tow trailers under 2K).

I'm sure it will work, but I still wouldn't want to tow 5-6 tons with the 6.2L gasser setup on a regular basis. My Tundra has the 5.7L V8 in it and that has similar specs to the Ford 6.2L and while I've pulled 9K plus with it a few times I wouldn't want to have to do that on a regular basis. I know stats aren't a perfect comparison, but they get you in the ballpark.

Ideally Luke might see if he can take a demo home with the exact combo he'd be buying, put one of his trailers behind it and get a feel for how it will really be.

The loads he's talking about would be a relaxing tow with the diesel F250, and what I would call aggravating with anything else. I can't stand to listen to the engine wail away at 4K every time there's a slight incline, but that doesn't seem to bother many folks

 

[dodge man]

I just switched from a Dodge with a Cummins to a 3/4 ton Chevy with a 6.0 gasser. My Chevy had the 3.73 rear gears. This works fine for me, I usually drive around with and empty bed and only tow maybe 6 to 12 times a year but I know the rating between 4.10's and the 3.73's is huge. I think mine is rated to tow 9500lbs but with 4.10's that jumps to something like 14,000 lbs. My gas mileage seems to hover around 13 mpg empty.

If I towed a lot, the diesel is really hard to beat. The Chevy is newer and better in every way then the Dodge except the engine. The Cummins just pulled so much better. A lot of it is just the power curve between diesel and gas. Even towing the Cummins rarely went past 2800 rpms while my Chevy empty will often pull to 3000 rpms.

It sounds like you tow often enough that the 4.30's or 4.10's might be the way to go. I'd make sure to also get any kind of tow package, a posi unit in back, and tow mirrors if they aren't standard.

 

[Luke'sScreenName]

Thanks for the input y'all I really appreciate it!

Most of the time my load is well under 5ton. Maybe every other month will I haul 5ton and thoes are typically short trip.

The currently imaginary 5th wheel camp may involve longer trips but should be less weight. :confused3:

 

[ovrszd]

Good luck with whatever you buy Luke. Look forward to hearing your experiences with the truck.

 

[Luke'sScreenName]

Good luck with whatever you buy Luke. Look forward to hearing your experiences with the truck.

I will continue to share here! I really appreciate your imput.

Anyone have anything to say about Zeibart rust protection? I have one within driving distance.

 

[GManBart]

The currently imaginary 5th wheel camp may involve longer trips but should be less weight. :confused3:

Your wife clearly doesn't pack like mine does :laughing: