Pallet fork logging ck2610

[Red Fuel]

Today we had some fun yarding Alder logs for fire wood. The forks work great for clean up and hauling, coming up on 50 hours and we continue to be impressed with this versatile little machine.

 

[danny77]

That looks awesome Red Fuel,

Can't wait to get mine up and running again. Those forks really look like they get the job done. I'm going to get forks and a grapple, but I can see where the forks have the benefit of no size limitations (just weight)

 

[motownbrowne]

Looking good!

I just called a dealership and got a quote for a ck2610 HST. I'm not in the market, but a good friend is. Do you mind if I ask what else you compared it to when shopping, and what led you to the Kioti?

 

[Red Fuel]

Looking good!

I just called a dealership and got a quote for a ck2610 HST. I'm not in the market, but a good friend is. Do you mind if I ask what else you compared it to when shopping, and what led you to the Kioti?

Sure mb, my tractor search included the Kubota l2501. A combination of features made the Kioti a better choice for me like the twin pedal hst, better loader specs, fender mounted stick for either side entry, grab handles(I live on a hillside), and larger engine displacement (plan on turning up the fuel later).
Also Kioti has a local dealer, it's 100 miles to the nearest Kubota shop.

 

[kas2960]

Love the pics! Just bought a ck as well. Take delivery next week. Want to use it for the same thing you are. The first pic is a log on the forks. Did you load the rear tires?

 

[chuck172]

You really ought to be pulling from the drawbar.

 

[jabelding]

Pulling from the 3pt is fine as long as your careful, all of the winches are set up that way. With just the draw bar it is tough to get the front of the log up of the ground. Just go slow and stop if the front wheels rise. Helps even more if you have a load on the forks. With most of the winches and my logging rack it would hit the ground and unload the rear tires before you have an issue. I also have the top chain hitch point set up at an angle so if the frame rotates the chain will release. With that being said you want to go slow! I was only pulling this log in 2nd gear front tires never showed sign of coming off the ground.

 

[Btown]

You really ought to be pulling from the drawbar.

Then why do they sell three point skidding winches for tractors? I know it's safer, I would hook the tree up right under the three point hitch and raise the log off the ground. I don't like towing logs that are that far behind. I would only move that way if I can't back over it and hook up.

 

[CobyRupert]

Then why do they sell three point skidding winches for tractors?

There's two conflicting issues:
1) If the front of the log is not raised when pulling there's a greater chance of it catching on something solid (root, rock, etc..), however, when doing this:
2) If the connection point at the tractor is above the rear axle (i.e. high on a 3 pth attachment) the leverage can quickly raise the front of the tractor up.

Most 3 pth winches have a lower pulley so that the pull point can be maintained below axle level. So raise the log up to get it out of mud, dirt and catching on objects, but not too high that it lightens the front end.

 

[motownbrowne]

Then why do they sell three point skidding winches for tractors? I know it's safer, I would hook the tree up right under the three point hitch and raise the log off the ground. I don't like towing logs that are that far behind. I would only move that way if I can't back over it and hook up.

Skidding winches have legs or a blade that will most likely prevent a rollover by hitting the ground and taking the traction away from the rear tires. Hitching the log to a three point drawbar or trailer mover does not offer this protection. Big difference.

 

[Btown]

Skidding winches have legs or a blade that will most likely prevent a rollover by hitting the ground and taking the traction away from the rear tires. Hitching the log to a three point drawbar or trailer mover does not offer this protection. Big difference.

Some do.

 

[Btown]

And some do not.

 

[roadhunter]

I'm surprised with some of the logs you are picking up with that Kioti. I would have figured a counterweight would have been necessary.

As has been mentioned earlier it's more stable to pull from below the axle.

 

[motownbrowne]

Some do.

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And some do not.

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I'm going to agree with your point here, but argue the specifics. I was talking about skidding winches. The grapple you show in the second picture is a grapple, not a winch.

I do see your point, though. I've never operated a three point grapple, and I've never researched purchasing one, so I'm not familiar with how they deal with the danger of creating a backwards flipping situation. I would guess that the idea is that as long as the butt of the log is off the ground, you should be good, but I would still think there's a possibility for an accident. Personally, I think a winch is a better, safer, more versatile tool, but I can see where a grapple like that would be pretty slick.

No matter what, skidding logs is dangerous business. All we can do is try our best to be safe.

 

[Btown]

I'm going to agree with your point here, but argue the specifics. I was talking about skidding winches. The grapple you show in the second picture is a grapple, not a winch. I do see your point, though. I've never operated a three point grapple, and I've never researched purchasing one, so I'm not familiar with how they deal with the danger of creating a backwards flipping situation. I would guess that the idea is that as long as the butt of the log is off the ground, you should be good, but I would still think there's a possibility for an accident. Personally, I think a winch is a better, safer, more versatile tool, but I can see where a grapple like that would be pretty slick. No matter what, skidding logs is dangerous business. All we can do is try our best to be safe.

I agree with you the lower blade on the winches have added safety, but most winches I look at raise the wood up high to the top link. My whole point was someone stated he should pull it with his draw bar. Most winches and that grapple and log skidder attachments raise the log using the 3 point hitch, not drawbar. Most people can not justify the cost of a winch but could for a skidder attachment like this.

If you pull from drawbar the log can get stuck on all kinds of things. If it is up in the air it goes over things much better.

 

[CobyRupert]

Not sure that a skidding winch offers much backwards flip protection (other than getting butt of log off the ground) because most 3 pth's have no downward pressure.
Like a chain you can only lift and lower with, you can't push down with it.
So if the tractor flips backwards the attachment just hits the ground and the tractor continues to flip (similar to the attachment being pushed up)

 

[motownbrowne]

Not sure that a skidding winch offers much backwards flip protection (other than getting butt of log off the ground) because most 3 pth's have no downward pressure.
Like a chain you can only lift and lower with, you can't push down with it.
So if the tractor flips backwards the attachment just hits the ground and the tractor continues to flip (similar to the attachment being pushed up)

I certainly could be wrong, but I would have thought that if the attachment is lifted all the way up, such as how the winch would be lifted while skidding logs, that it can't be pushed up any higher. I suppose something could break, but I am thinking that the three point hitch can't be pushed up much higher than it lifts by hydraulic action.