My new Ford 4000

[Soundguy]

Is there any mechanical clutch in S-o-S Fords? (none for PTO? ..)

If so, just 'stuck' after sitting for so long?

the pto is an independent clutch setup. ie.. wet clutch.

there is a torque limiting clutch at the front of the tranny.. but it isn't a clutch the user has access too..

so no.. no 'clutches' for the user. It is a full powershift transmission.

 

[the old grind]

Thanks SG.

Reason I asked is having had motorbike experience like gemultich relates on p.3. I'd think wet 'multi-plates' could stick whether foot or servo operated. Breaking them loose would seem more difficult if there was any fluid coupling in the power path to cushion a servo's typical all or nothing engagement and couldn't be 'forced'.

Anyway, totally stoked on the 'deal' the OP got, and of course on 4000-series Fords. And to me, the older a model is and/or more intermittent its intended tasks the more I'd be OK with gas vs diesel power, esp fearing what could go wrong when reviving from long sits. (fuel quality/contamination, etc) IMO 'carbs' are easier (cheaper) to troubleshoot/replace than injector pumps when power wanes, and food plot work isn't a constant chore for most.

 

[kuschneider]

I was talking to a more experience tractor guy, it appears that maybe my expectations for how fast the PTO is supposed to turn were set a little high. We shall see. Tonight I am planning on getting the gas tank my buddy refurbished back on and hooked up, drain enough coolant to replace the upper radiator hose, and roll it out of my garage, and re engage the transmission and see what we have in terms of gears on the SOS. We have only started and run it for a minute at most.

I picked up the brush hog and blade last night. Looking forward to hooking it up and getting a solid understanding of where we sit with the PTO. Things are going pretty well so far though.

I check the fluid through the transmission filler plug. IT was plum full, and pretty darn clear. Is the CORRECT tractor hydraulic fluid supposed to be red, or did they just use some lame ATF? The fluid on the differential dip stick is full and also very clear.

Thanks for the help fellas. She is coming along.

 

[gemutlich]

Clear huh? Did you stick your finger in it and see if it had any oily quality? Typically water will settle beneath oil but who knows... That's why I'm planning on draining and flushing everything in that '641 I just bought - just so I know for sure what I'm starting off with. Peace of mind, plus it could help me identify a potential problem, and help me in the troubleshooting process of elimination yeah?

Keep us posted, and pics are real easy to put up here so keep 'em coming!

 

[ovrszd]

Clear huh? Did you stick your finger in it and see if it had any oily quality? Typically water will settle beneath oil but who knows... That's why I'm planning on draining and flushing everything in that '641 I just bought - just so I know for sure what I'm starting off with. Peace of mind, plus it could help me identify a potential problem, and help me in the troubleshooting process of elimination yeah?

Keep us posted, and pics are real easy to put up here so keep 'em coming!

Easy now. He knows the difference between oil and water. You two guys should buddy up and share experiences.

 

[kuschneider]

Well after 14 years of teaching chemistry I can confidently say I know the difference between water and oil. When I say clear i mean Transparent, not cloudy nasty dirty burnt up oil. I agree with your decision to drain and refill tranny oil. I see that in my future as well, just verifying the fluid level before we try to get it into gear for the first time this evening.

 

[Soundguy]

Some utf are a clearish amber, some are dyed red or green, etc.

 

[ovrszd]

Well after 14 years of teaching chemistry I can confidently say I know the difference between water and oil. When I say clear i mean Transparent, not cloudy nasty dirty burnt up oil. I agree with your decision to drain and refill tranny oil. I see that in my future as well, just verifying the fluid level before we try to get it into gear for the first time this evening.

Yep. Ur on track. As identified by Soundguy, wouldn't pay much attention to color. Too many variables. As for water, I search for that discoloration after running the machine. Chocolate milk color.

Change all fluids. But you already know that.

 

[gemutlich]

Easy now. He knows the difference between oil and water. You two guys should buddy up and share experiences.

Oh, I'm not doubting anyones' ability to distinguish between oil and water, was just thrown by the choice of the word "clear" - more so because I've had my share of exposure to equipment that being left outside had more than their share of water where water had no business being, lol. Either through weather, condensation from daily exposure to sun and cooling of at night, or even simple tom-foolery. And considering the nature of the problem the OP thought he had, the effects of water in there could explain in part what he thought he had going on.

I'm all for a trip to Missouri, last time I was there was during Army life. Afraid Water Moccasins just don't taste as good as the rabbits we have in Tennessee though so I'll stick a little closer to Home!

 

[kuschneider]

Well fellas, here is the video. Both R1 and R2 are good. Made it up to 8th. Gotta little carb adjusting to do, maybe the float? But we are looking good.