Saw a guy with a Mahindra cap.............

[CreekyB]

So, in vein with the OP.

I owned a Case backhoe. It was 15ish? years ago....

I can always remember that it was a Case 5something. Recently bought a tractor and we were talking about it. Had to go look at some old paper work. It was a 580c, bet I won't remember that again in a few years.

Pretty sure I always knew what it was when I owned it, it was worn out when I bought it, and wore out more when I sold it for more than I bought it for Seems like I was buying, replacing, repairing something on it every week when we were using it.

Morale of the story. Never buy a used backhoe who's main purpose in life was driving a hammer every day for over a decade. Even if it comes with three barely used scoops, two hammers and a trailer.

 

[dickfoster]

yes you can but no Mahindra dealers in Nebraska- at least according to this and previous posters due to the required tests:




Find a Dealer | Mahindra





I'm sure the Mahindras would do a fine job on a small (under 500 acre) Nebraska corn growing operation. Still would love to own a 30 series someday.

It does make one wonder doesn't it? If they are so proud of their machines, then when why no dealers in Nebraska? Can it be coincidence? What really makes me wonder is how California could stand by and let Nebraska get ahead of them in regulating anything.:laughing:

 

[TSO]

I'm still wondering how true that requirement idea is ... Again, my Massey (and similar Massey models) are not listed on the Nebraska test site, yet they are for sale in Nebraska.

 

[dickfoster]

Massey Ferguson | Nebraska Tractor Test Laboratory | University of Nebraska–Lincoln

I think someone said it has to be North of 100 HP to require the test. I'm just guessing that your's is around 50 HP from the model number which puts you down here in the toy tractor class or not a serious tractor but just looks kinda like a tractor. Somewhere between a lawn mower and a tractor like Smart Cars aren't really cars, just overgrown fluffed up golf carts.

Oops scuse me, it's 40 HP min. So your's at 52 HP is a tractor and mine at 38 HP is a lawn mower.

The Nebraska Department of Agriculture defines a tractor as “…an
agricultural tractor of forty or more horsepower which is a traction machine designed and advertised
primarily to supply power to agricultural implements and farmstead equipment. An agricultural tractor
propels itself and provides a force in the direction of travel to enable attached soil-engaging and other
implements to perform their intended function.”15
By adding the minimum horsepower requirement to the
tractor definition, the Nebraska Department of Agriculture has eliminated many small tractors which are
considered to be consumer or homeowner products.

Another thought is that your model could be made by someone else and is included in that data. So many tractors today are made by other folks than the brand name would suggest. Many Mahindra models made by TYM or Mitsubisi for example.

 

[sd455dan]

It does make one wonder doesn't it? If they are so proud of their machines, then when why no dealers in Nebraska? Can it be coincidence? What really makes me wonder is how California could stand by and let Nebraska get ahead of them in regulating anything.:laughing:

IIRC- I thought I read a story a few years back about how Henry Ford was going to market the Fordson and another guy named Ford began selling a real piece of **** using the Ford name.
People in Nebraska bought the junk one marketed under the Ford name thinking it was built by Henry's company.
Long story short the testing was a by product that was meant to inject some honesty into the new world of tractors being sold in Nebraska once again iirc

 

[dickfoster]

IIRC- I thought I read a story a few years back about how Henry Ford was going to market the Fordson and another guy named Ford began selling a real piece of **** using the Ford name.
People in Nebraska bought the junk one marketed under the Ford name thinking it was built by Henry's company.
Long story short the testing was a by product that was meant to inject some honesty into the new world of tractors being sold in Nebraska once again iirc

That's exactly the story as the legend goes. You never know when someone you piss off is going to wind up in politics and holding office so it pays to play it straight. Trump may be a good example of that today.

 

[TSO]

Massey Ferguson | Nebraska Tractor Test Laboratory | University of Nebraska–Lincoln

I think someone said it has to be North of 100 HP to require the test. I'm just guessing that your's is around 50 HP from the model number which puts you down here in the toy tractor class or not a serious tractor but just looks kinda like a tractor. Somewhere between a lawn mower and a tractor like Smart Cars aren't really cars, just overgrown fluffed up golf carts.

Oops scuse me, it's 40 HP min. So your's at 52 HP is a tractor and mine at 38 HP is a lawn mower.

The Nebraska Department of Agriculture defines a tractor as “…an
agricultural tractor of forty or more horsepower which is a traction machine designed and advertised
primarily to supply power to agricultural implements and farmstead equipment. An agricultural tractor
propels itself and provides a force in the direction of travel to enable attached soil-engaging and other
implements to perform their intended function.”15
By adding the minimum horsepower requirement to the
tractor definition, the Nebraska Department of Agriculture has eliminated many small tractors which are
considered to be consumer or homeowner products.

Another thought is that your model could be made by someone else and is included in that data. So many tractors today are made by other folks than the brand name would suggest. Many Mahindra models made by TYM or Mitsubisi for example.

interesting ... So either AGCO-Massey is defying the Nebraska tractor gods and selling an untested tractor, They've found some undisclosed loophole, My tractor has been tested but the data omitted from the website.... OR, none of it matters/applies anymore.

 

[dickfoster]

I think I read that if anyone sold you a tractor without the required permit, you can take it back for a full refund under the law. Or it may just be a newer model that isn't posted yet. After all the University of Nebraska does the testing and you know how kids are these days. They're too busy playing pokemon on their smartphones or some such nonsense. In my day we drank beer and conducted pantie raids. I don't think the kids these days know what they're missing.

 

[sd455dan]

interesting ... So either AGCO-Massey is defying the Nebraska tractor gods and selling an untested tractor, They've found some undisclosed loophole, My tractor has been tested but the data omitted from the website.... OR, none of it matters/applies anymore.

not sure if this link was posted already but it does shed some light on tractors sold internationally and how they may be sold in Nebraska

Sounds like it all came down to the$$ Nebraska test labs wanted vs. what manufacturers thought was reasonable and available from other testers.

FARM SHOW - Nebraska Tractor Test Lab Struggling to Survive



This is the part referring to selling in Nebraska of tractors not tested by the state

Another problem for manufacturers is that tractors made and sold overseas have to conform to standards of an international network of 24 test stations known as the Organization for Ecomomic Cooperation and Development (OECD). The two tests are similar in many respects, prompting tractor manufacturers to question the need for two tests.



The key turning point came last year when the Nebraska legislature, with the blessings of tractor manufacturers, passed a law which, in effect, says tractors can now be sold in Nebraska if they are either Nebraska or OECD tested.



The thinking behind the bill was that the U.S. Commerce Department would then make the Nebraska lab the official OECD test center in the U.S. The anticipated "smooth transition" has been bogged down in a sea of broken promises.

The sponsor of the bill maintains that he had received pledges from Deere and Case-IH officials that they, personally, would take responsibility for getting the Nebraska lab designated as the official OECD testing facility in the U.S.

 

[dickfoster]

not sure if this link was posted already but it does shed some light on tractors sold internationally and how they may be sold in Nebraska

Sounds like it all came down to the$$ Nebraska test labs wanted vs. what manufacturers thought was reasonable and available from other testers.

FARM SHOW - Nebraska Tractor Test Lab Struggling to Survive



This is the part referring to selling in Nebraska of tractors not tested by the state

Another problem for manufacturers is that tractors made and sold overseas have to conform to standards of an international network of 24 test stations known as the Organization for Ecomomic Cooperation and Development (OECD). The two tests are similar in many respects, prompting tractor manufacturers to question the need for two tests.



The key turning point came last year when the Nebraska legislature, with the blessings of tractor manufacturers, passed a law which, in effect, says tractors can now be sold in Nebraska if they are either Nebraska or OECD tested.



The thinking behind the bill was that the U.S. Commerce Department would then make the Nebraska lab the official OECD test center in the U.S. The anticipated "smooth transition" has been bogged down in a sea of broken promises.

The sponsor of the bill maintains that he had received pledges from Deere and Case-IH officials that they, personally, would take responsibility for getting the Nebraska lab designated as the official OECD testing facility in the U.S.

Well that's good info. As usual, it seems that politics is mucking things up. And they keep telling us they are here to help and most of us keep believing them. LOL