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   / New PT1430 arrived. #91  
Have you considered adding an electric selector valve to the dump/curl circuit to operate your adjustable link from the joystick with a button push?


Hmmmm! No, I had thought of dedicating the current manual Aux control valve to the QA setup, and adding solenoid valves to control the Aux functions for the grapple and minihoe (I hate having to reach over with the left hand -- remember I shade-tree engineered moving the control handle to the left side of the steering wheel on my burned 425). I often want to curl the attachment and close the bucket/grapple at the same time -- and that requires two hands...

Maybe two sets of electric valves and 4 buttons on the joystick handle! :laughing:

Great suggestion!
 
   / New PT1430 arrived. #92  
I thought about adding an electric diverter valve to switch the Aux PTO (quick attach handle) and the power angle for my snow plow, so I wouldn't have to reach down for the quick attach handle. But after years of use, I find I just leave it straight most of the time anyway, and only angle it maybe twice the entire time I'm plowing. So I never did it.
 
   / New PT1430 arrived. #93  
Using the minihoe, you are constantly curling and uncurling the dipper bucket. On the grapple, not quite so much -- during transport, all you need to do is occasionally clamp down tighter, but when filling and dumping the grapple you're constantly controlling the clamping...
 
   / New PT1430 arrived. #94  
That would make the electric diverter valve worth doing, in my mind.
 
   / New PT1430 arrived. #95  
I certainly appreciate the extra hydraulic circuits I added.

I suspect the land plane would work better with driving in reverse - less strain on the arms etc (tension is usually better than compression).

Ken
 
   / New PT1430 arrived. #96  
Yeah, pushing dirt with an implement on the FEL arms tends to want to make the machine drive up over itself, especially if you try to do it in float.
 
   / New PT1430 arrived. #97  
Yes, to both Ken and Moss's points, but here was my thinking:
1. By mounting the QA plate vertically on the land plane, and using the shortest hole on my toplink, I think the tendency for the tractor to climb up onto the attachment will be much less - how much is yet TBD. IMO, the normally angled QA plate forces the lift arms up when pushing hard. To use a landplane or box blade effectively they must be able to float.
2. My limited experience with this old 3-pin setup and it's push bar so far shows that the push bar makes a big difference. I can push my finish mower or rough-cut uphill or into areas, using float, where I would've had to lift my QA attachments slightly to continue. Having the ability to transmit force down low, parallel to the ground makes a significant difference. This 3rd point is down below the center of the wheels, similar to the fixed drawbar on a 3pt tractor in comparison to the drawbar on the 3pt lift arms. The force when pushing tends to push the tractor down slightly rather than lifting it, though most is transmitted parallel to the ground. Both my 3-pin mowers simply hang underneath the lift arms, with no toplink used, and all pushing is done with that push bar...

Whether or not I can effectively push the 500 lb land plane (485 + the QA plate), especially in float, is yet to be seen. But this EA one at least should let me experiment to see. Meanwhile, I can pull it, as intended...

Also, this discussion has been quite valuable - for example I've now concluded that for a hydraulic, adjustable toplink to work effectively, I can't simply "tee into" the existing curl circuit and let both cylinders move at the same time. That second cylinder would need to be independently controlled by a valve (whether mechanical or electric solenoid) -- otherwise you could end up with undesirable placements - such as the toplink fully extended and the lift/curl cylinder retracted.

This brain-storming is invaluable!
 
   / New PT1430 arrived. #98  
The forces will always be better pulling than pushing. Extra load in pull adds down force to the drive wheels, while extra load during pushing adds load to the implement, reducing the traction at the drive wheels. Whether there is enough left for what you want to do...only you can tell.
All the best,
Peter
 
   / New PT1430 arrived. #99  
....
Also, this discussion has been quite valuable - for example I've now concluded that for a hydraulic, adjustable toplink to work effectively, I can't simply "tee into" the existing curl circuit and let both cylinders move at the same time. That second cylinder would need to be independently controlled by a valve (whether mechanical or electric solenoid) -- otherwise you could end up with undesirable placements - such as the toplink fully extended and the lift/curl cylinder retracted.

This brain-storming is invaluable!

Yep. If you Tee them together, the one with the least resistance would operate first. Which one? Who knows. :confused3:
 

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