What are the reasons for NOT using Cruise Control?

   / What are the reasons for NOT using Cruise Control? #111  
No, mine won't hold a downhill either in drive. But if I downshift to a gear that would slow me below the speed limit with engine compression, then the cruise control will accelerate the engine and then it'll hold your speed down the hill, so-to-speak.

Some of the newer automatics in the Fords will do the downshift for you. User interaction is not required.
 
   / What are the reasons for NOT using Cruise Control? #112  
If you are indeed following way back, and maintaining the same speed on the open and flat road as I am....

If I speed up about 2-3 mph in anticipation of a hill.....I fail to see how slowing 2-3 mph below my normal speed is gonna cause you any issues. Could you please explain?

Its like this...

You're following someone along and they are going exactly the speed limit. That's great. But the car following can't go exactly the speed limit. They have to go just a tad slower. And anyone behind them has to go a tad, tad slower. And the third is a tad, tad, tad slower. Etc...

So then you speed up 3mph to go up that hill. And everyone behind you now thinks you are speeding up, so they all speed up, too. But then you slow down again. So car #1 has to brake. And car #2 has to brake harder, and car #3 has to brake harder than car #2. Etc...

And it takes car #2 longer to react to your speed than car #1. And car #3 even longer. And that's for both accelerating and braking.

And that's what causes pulsation in traffic, which causes people to brake more often, accelerate more often, and be less fuel efficient.

By you not maintaining a constant speed, everyone else behind you suffers.

Now if you break it down to just one car following you and you're going 55. He's obviously going faster than you, because he caught up to you, right? So he slows down to 54. And he's thinking, well, the guy's probably going 55 so I'll just sit here. But then you speed up 3mph to go up that hill. He notices you speeding up and says "YAY!" and starts trying to match your speed. So he'll have to get up to about 60 to catch up to you going 58. And right about the time he catches up to you just over the edge of the hill, you're doing 55 again, he's doing 60, momentum is carrying him accelerating well past 60 on a downhill run and you're slowing down going down a hill, which is against the laws of physics. He has to brake hard now. And I guarantee he's calling you a donkey vortex for slowing down on the downhill when you just accelerated up the uphill. Most people want to drive at a constant speed, and that's the speed of the person in front of them. If that person is constantly speeding up and slowing down, they aren't playing by the rules of common etiquette, and are therefor a menace to society. ;)
 
   / What are the reasons for NOT using Cruise Control? #113  
Some of the newer automatics in the Fords will do the downshift for you. User interaction is not required.

That would be nice. I'll try and rent one sometime. :thumbsup:
 
   / What are the reasons for NOT using Cruise Control? #114  
Apparently folk just have a misunderstanding about what cruise control is for. It was intended for the wide open road. In town you never know when a kid will come chasing a ball or dog out directly into one of your wheel wells. When your foot is already at the ready modulating the throttle, it is a much easier and faster change to the brake than to have your foot relaxed and resting comfortably on the floorboard. To go through a school zone with cruise on is moronic. A kid in my class was hit and killed 30 feet from the front door of the school I went to in 2nd grade.


This thread makes me think many members will one day be the old man that set the cruise on his RV and went in back to make coffee.
:thumbsup:
What a silly thread:confused2:
 
   / What are the reasons for NOT using Cruise Control? #115  
Do you ever pretend while bored and driving that you are actually standing still and the world is speeding by? It's an interesting mind set.

You just described the way I felt while sitting in bumper to bumper traffic in southern California, after smoking some Colombian weed, in 1974. The world was speeding by in the opposing lanes.
 
   / What are the reasons for NOT using Cruise Control? #116  
Its like this...

You're following someone along and they are going exactly the speed limit. That's great. But the car following can't go exactly the speed limit. They have to go just a tad slower. And anyone behind them has to go a tad, tad slower. And the third is a tad, tad, tad slower. Etc...

So then you speed up 3mph to go up that hill. And everyone behind you now thinks you are speeding up, so they all speed up, too. But then you slow down again. So car #1 has to brake. And car #2 has to brake harder, and car #3 has to brake harder than car #2. Etc...

And it takes car #2 longer to react to your speed than car #1. And car #3 even longer. And that's for both accelerating and braking.

And that's what causes pulsation in traffic, which causes people to brake more often, accelerate more often, and be less fuel efficient.

By you not maintaining a constant speed, everyone else behind you suffers.

Now if you break it down to just one car following you and you're going 55. He's obviously going faster than you, because he caught up to you, right? So he slows down to 54. And he's thinking, well, the guy's probably going 55 so I'll just sit here. But then you speed up 3mph to go up that hill. He notices you speeding up and says "YAY!" and starts trying to match your speed. So he'll have to get up to about 60 to catch up to you going 58. And right about the time he catches up to you just over the edge of the hill, you're doing 55 again, he's doing 60, momentum is carrying him accelerating well past 60 on a downhill run and you're slowing down going down a hill, which is against the laws of physics. He has to brake hard now. And I guarantee he's calling you a donkey vortex for slowing down on the downhill when you just accelerated up the uphill. Most people want to drive at a constant speed, and that's the speed of the person in front of them. If that person is constantly speeding up and slowing down, they aren't playing by the rules of common etiquette, and are therefor a menace to society. ;)

Too much to try to snip out and quote line by line, buy what you mention makes no sense on so many levels.

First.....if I'm going 55, why does each subsequent car behind me have to go slower? **** if we lined up enough cars, the ones in the back would have to be In reverse.

Second, has no one ever followed a trucker, or a heavily loaded vehicle. Yea, they slow down going up a hill. Speed up on a downhill. And do pretty good maintaining on the flat. So if my acceleration in anticipation of a hill, and slowing going up the hill do as you claim. And make you think I am speeding up, and you follow suit.....then have to slam on the brakes as I am going 52 at the crest to your 60.....well, when we even back out at 55 and you set your CC.....do you think you have learned something? Or is it gonna be rinse and repeat on the next hill? And if so, how many hills do you think it will take before you realize you should just leave your CC set, and then I wouldn't cause you any misery at all?

CC isn't perfect. None of mine have ever been. Others have already said on this thread that their CC can vary by a few mph on hills. So...what's next?

Perhaps we should debate different brands on their CC. Maybe Ford guys can get all worked up at dodge guys because their CC regulates just a tad differently on hills, causing the trailing vehicle to have to constantly adjust either left thumb:mur: oh my so much work. So much grief that will cause
 
   / What are the reasons for NOT using Cruise Control? #117  
Its like this...

You're following someone along and they are going exactly the speed limit. That's great. But the car following can't go exactly the speed limit. They have to go just a tad slower. And anyone behind them has to go a tad, tad slower. And the third is a tad, tad, tad slower. Etc...

So then you speed up 3mph to go up that hill. And everyone behind you now thinks you are speeding up, so they all speed up, too. But then you slow down again. So car #1 has to brake. And car #2 has to brake harder, and car #3 has to brake harder than car #2. Etc...

And it takes car #2 longer to react to your speed than car #1. And car #3 even longer. And that's for both accelerating and braking.

And that's what causes pulsation in traffic, which causes people to brake more often, accelerate more often, and be less fuel efficient.

By you not maintaining a constant speed, everyone else behind you suffers.

Now if you break it down to just one car following you and you're going 55. He's obviously going faster than you, because he caught up to you, right? So he slows down to 54. And he's thinking, well, the guy's probably going 55 so I'll just sit here. But then you speed up 3mph to go up that hill. He notices you speeding up and says "YAY!" and starts trying to match your speed. So he'll have to get up to about 60 to catch up to you going 58. And right about the time he catches up to you just over the edge of the hill, you're doing 55 again, he's doing 60, momentum is carrying him accelerating well past 60 on a downhill run and you're slowing down going down a hill, which is against the laws of physics. He has to brake hard now. And I guarantee he's calling you a donkey vortex for slowing down on the downhill when you just accelerated up the uphill. Most people want to drive at a constant speed, and that's the speed of the person in front of them. If that person is constantly speeding up and slowing down, they aren't playing by the rules of common etiquette, and are therefor a menace to society. ;)

Well put. Don't mind the troll.
 
   / What are the reasons for NOT using Cruise Control? #118  
Too much to try to snip out and quote line by line, buy what you mention makes no sense on so many levels.

First.....if I'm going 55, why does each subsequent car behind me have to go slower? **** if we lined up enough cars, the ones in the back would have to be In reverse.

Second, has no one ever followed a trucker, or a heavily loaded vehicle. Yea, they slow down going up a hill. Speed up on a downhill. And do pretty good maintaining on the flat. So if my acceleration in anticipation of a hill, and slowing going up the hill do as you claim. And make you think I am speeding up, and you follow suit.....then have to slam on the brakes as I am going 52 at the crest to your 60.....well, when we even back out at 55 and you set your CC.....do you think you have learned something? Or is it gonna be rinse and repeat on the next hill? And if so, how many hills do you think it will take before you realize you should just leave your CC set, and then I wouldn't cause you any misery at all?

CC isn't perfect. None of mine have ever been. Others have already said on this thread that their CC can vary by a few mph on hills. So...what's next?

Perhaps we should debate different brands on their CC. Maybe Ford guys can get all worked up at dodge guys because their CC regulates just a tad differently on hills, causing the trailing vehicle to have to constantly adjust either left thumb:mur: oh my so much work. So much grief that will cause

You asked "Please explain."

I explained.
You got angry. :laughing:
 
   / What are the reasons for NOT using Cruise Control? #119  
This is a classic on many levels. LAffin

First.....if I'm going 55, why does each subsequent car behind me have to go slower?
 
   / What are the reasons for NOT using Cruise Control? #120  

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