Mahindra 2555L Loader - How many positions is the loader controller? Relocation ?

[tacker]

Three questions :

How many positions is the loader joystick control ? Can you curl the bucket while raising or lowering ?

I hate that the joystick is up by the steering wheel and not by the armrest... Is it possible to re-locate or maybe use something similar to what the 3540 has ?

Also, If I wanted to replace the little harry potter wand with a more substantial knob are the threads standard with others ?

I really like the Mahindra , but these little quirks are making me think about other brands.

 

[DirtHauler]

I know it has four+float, have you tried either? The reason I ask is because I don't have mine installed.
To answer your 2nd question.....yes it's possible but pricey! I, like you, don't care for the "factory" set up. Now that I have some down time, I'll be installing the joystick where it should be this week!
3rd question: The threads should be 10x1.25 or 10x1.5

Three questions :

How many positions is the loader joystick control ? Can you curl the bucket while raising or lowering ?

I hate that the joystick is up by the steering wheel and not by the armrest... Is it possible to re-locate or maybe use something similar to what the 3540 has ?

Also, If I wanted to replace the little harry potter wand with a more substantial knob are the threads standard with others ?

I really like the Mahindra , but these little quirks are making me think about other brands.

 

[LD1]

I counted 4 questions

It should be a 4 position valve, with a float detent for the lift/lower. And possibly and additional Regen on dump.

Yes, you should be able to do two functions at once.

They do make cable operated valves to relocate the joystick, but don't know much about that. And no idea on knob threads

 

[RNeumann]

Thought about relocating the joystick to the right fender as well. It can be done. Here is a start.

http://www.princehyd.com/Portals/0/valves/ValvesLvs.pdf

You are looking at 2 new valves, 2 cables and the joystick. Then fab the mounts etc.

If you want to go all out you could also get electric over hydraulic valves and use a Scorpion joystick.

Scorpion Technologies LTD. - Joysticks

The electric over hydraulic setup may be overkill as I have not seen any CUTs that have this type of setup. Most, that have a decent joystick location, use cables.

I'm not familiar with the model you have. If it has a cab option Mahindra probably offers the parts needed. As the Mahindra cab tractors I've seen all have the joystick relocated to the fender.

Scorpion also makes replacement "knobs" or grips. I think they slide on and are affixed with set screws.

 

[BLSXJ]

When I test drove a new 2538, the loader could only use 1 function at a time. It couldn't lift and curl. it was lift OR curl.

 

[LD1]

When I test drove a new 2538, the loader could only use 1 function at a time. It couldn't lift and curl. it was lift OR curl.

Wonder if there was just something wrong with that machine. Can anyone else verify that on the mahindra 2538??

I have operated several loader machines. A JD2040 with two stick, an IH 444 with joystick, Kubota L3400 with joystick, MX5100 with joystick, Ford 4500 with 2-stick, Ford 5500 with joystick, 8n ford with 1-arm loader and two-stick, A few skid loaders, etc. ALL of them have allowed both functions at once.

I am guessing there may just be something seized or bound up in the linkage from sitting on a dealer lot.

 

[oldpilgrim]

When I test drove a new 2538, the loader could only use 1 function at a time. It couldn't lift and curl. it was lift OR curl.

I suspect you didn't have the engine wound up enough. You need some pump volume to do two things at once.

 

[BLSXJ]

I wasn't operating at PTO speed, but I would guess somewhere in the 1700rpm range

I asked the sales guy and he said that's how it is. and when I tried doing two things it would always take bucket curl the only thing it would do.

and BTW my orange tractor can curl and lift at idle.

 

[oldpilgrim]

mine will do both but it does it better when its running faster.

 

[tacker]

I went to dealer and tested it. It functions any way you want it to. At low idle I was able to lift and curl at the same time... NOw just time to re-locate the loader valve controls when the new mahindra comes in.

 

[Sysop]

Another thing, even with the RPMs high it won't do two things at once if you max the control in either direction. Tractor hydraulics do not put out much more flow than what can flow through a wide open loader valve. Flowing everything through a fully opened function valve leaves no flow for the second function. The flow will always take the path of least resistance, cycling one set of cylinders to their max, then cycling the second set. To do two things at once you need to feather the controls lightly and find the balance of curl/dump/lift/lower that produces the desired result.

You'll also find the balance of these functions varies a lot depending on exactly which combination of functions you are trying to do and the current load being supported. Large loads raise slower and fall faster than no load. This changes "the path of least resistance"

The operator's goal should be to operate the machine slowly, smoothly, and without jerking it about, all while the RPMs are high enough to provide the rated hydraulic flow for the given machine. To do this requires a feathering of the controls. Someone who operates their loader or backhoe with low engine RPMs "because it is easier to control" needs to gain experience.

Most ratings for tractors are at PTO speed or are otherwise stated. I know of no pump that can provide the same flow at idle or high RPM, and I've seen no tractors where they indicate the hydraulic flow is rated at any more or less than PTO speed. So the "goal" RPM to operate at for optimum rated results and performance, are the PTO RPM. Getting things to operate well at PTO speed takes practice of the operator.

Keeping a pallet level while raising and lowering it is one of the more difficult things I've ever had to do with my tractor.

 

[DirtHauler]

O.K., finished the joy stick install today (relocation) on my 2555L. Here's a few pics.

 

[oldpilgrim]

Nice !!!

 

[dickfoster]

Good job!

 

[Btown]

Mahindra 2555L Loader - How many positions is the loader controller? Relocat...

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[tacker]

O.K., finished the joy stick install today (relocation) on my 2555L. Here's a few pics.

Awesome! Where did you get your parts ?

 

[DirtHauler]

TYM/Mahindra. TYM O.E.M parts (TYM T454 tractor) and Mahindra 2555/2565 CL

Awesome! Where did you get your parts ?

 

[tacker]

Is there a reason you chose the T454 over the T554 parts? Or are they the same ? I don't have a TYM dealer nearby so I will either have to drive a couple hours to get the parts or find somewhere online to order the parts. Do you have a list of the parts you ordered ? Did you purchase them online somewhere or at a local TYM Dealer.

TYM/Mahindra. TYM O.E.M parts (TYM T454 tractor) and Mahindra 2555/2565 CL

 

[Btown]

Is there a reason you chose the T454 over the T554 parts? Or are they the same ? I don't have a TYM dealer nearby so I will either have to drive a couple hours to get the parts or find somewhere online to order the parts. Do you have a list of the parts you ordered ? Did you purchase them online somewhere or at a local TYM Dealer.

They should be the same. Only difference between the T454 and T554 is a turbo that make 10 more hp.

 

[dickfoster]

Another thing, even with the RPMs high it won't do two things at once if you max the control in either direction. Tractor hydraulics do not put out much more flow than what can flow through a wide open loader valve. Flowing everything through a fully opened function valve leaves no flow for the second function. The flow will always take the path of least resistance, cycling one set of cylinders to their max, then cycling the second set. To do two things at once you need to feather the controls lightly and find the balance of curl/dump/lift/lower that produces the desired result.

You'll also find the balance of these functions varies a lot depending on exactly which combination of functions you are trying to do and the current load being supported. Large loads raise slower and fall faster than no load. This changes "the path of least resistance"

The operator's goal should be to operate the machine slowly, smoothly, and without jerking it about, all while the RPMs are high enough to provide the rated hydraulic flow for the given machine. To do this requires a feathering of the controls. Someone who operates their loader or backhoe with low engine RPMs "because it is easier to control" needs to gain experience.

Most ratings for tractors are at PTO speed or are otherwise stated. I know of no pump that can provide the same flow at idle or high RPM, and I've seen no tractors where they indicate the hydraulic flow is rated at any more or less than PTO speed. So the "goal" RPM to operate at for optimum rated results and performance, are the PTO RPM. Getting things to operate well at PTO speed takes practice of the operator.

Keeping a pallet level while raising and lowering it is one of the more difficult things I've ever had to do with my tractor.

In the case of a backhoe, a whole lot of patience and practice in my experence. That thing really wants to move. I've even contemplated putting a flow restrictors in my swing cylinder circuit. It has a real hair trigger for boom swing.