Ford F150-I'm Done.

[HHR]

Spotted this Tundra Double Cab 8 foot bed on Saturday.

 

[Patches]

A rust prevention process that was used against rock salt in the 2000s was super susceptible to the new liquid salt process that has quickly been adopted by salt-belt municipalities. The liquid salt eats metals that where the rock salt resistant alive. It isn't uncommon to see mid 2000 Dodge trucks with their fenders rusted through after just a few years. I cannot speak to Toyota trucks because we just don't have them up here in my neck of the woods in sufficient numbers.

I live in what might be called "the rust belt"; Maine. They use all manner of ice treatment here, calcium chloride, magnesium chloride, brine as pretreatments and then lots of rocksalt as the storm progresses. A lot of my 130,000 miles is put on during the winter, trailering north or west to some of the best snowmobiling in the east. There is no discernible rust on the frame rails of the truck; the welded attachment points have surface rust. I can find no significant sheetmetal rust and have the original brake and fuel lines, which look fine. Some friends have Fords and Chevys, albeit older, but with less mileage and have sheetmetal and brake/fuel line issues. I've said it before and I'll say it again, this is without a doubt, the best lasting truck I've owned, and I've been licensed for 60 years

 

[oldpilgrim]

Massachusetts is notorious for it's use of salt and salt products on the winter roads. The yuppies here just can't get along without bare roads. I am amazed at how many Tundras I see here, no matter the age, that still look like new. There is no rust on them and the paint looks perfect and shiny. 10 year old trucks look as good as the 5 year old trucks that look as good as the 2 year old trucks.

And they're like the Energizer Bunny... they just keep going and going..............

You naysayers need to open your minds and give them a fair look see.

 

[roadhunter]

My brother has a toyota pickup I believe around a 2007. Still has less than 100k. Last thanksgiving it broke down in Sheridan Wyoming. Some issue that ended up being covered by Toyota but he had to leave it there and my Mom drove him and his wife back to Bozeman and then back to SHeridan to get the truck a few days later.. When he got back he had another check engine light and it turns out there is a crack in the exhaust manifold. Not a major issue so he is going to run it like it is but still frustrating. And he also gets 12-14 MPG most of the time.

I give him lots of chit as his truck is pampered, lives in the garage, never hauls anything, etc.. and mine of the same year has 4x the miles, weighs nearly twice as much, stays outside, pulls heavy loads regularly, running dirt roads all the time, breaks down less, and gets much better mileage.

The only brand I have really never heard of people having issues with is Subaru.

 

[GLyford]

Subarus also rust out here, about as fast as everything else or just slightly faster.

 

[nate57]

For subaru problems, Google Subaru head gasket. In general they are good cars though.

 

[downsizingnow48]

Subaru -- google front axle constant velocity joint. There is a whole industry grown up around DIY replacing them. Often at about 70k.

 

[Mikeeemo]

Spotted this Tundra Double Cab 8 foot bed on Saturday.

I have one, a 2007 model

 

[roadhunter]

Subaru -- google front axle constant velocity joint. There is a whole industry grown up around DIY replacing them. Often at about 70k.

Just going by what I have observed when asking actual subaru owners how they like thier vehicle, I've never owned one but will likely consider one on our next vehicle. I have no doubt they do break down occasionally but people who own them seem to really be loyal and enjoy them from what I have witnessed. Older Toyota pickup (22r) owners are much the same way.

OTOH I have known owners of every brand of pickup, even toyota, who have had what seem to be costly and unexpected repairs and with new technology it seems if anything to be getting worse not better. All these gizmos just make them more complicated to work on and undependable while at the same time it seems they are not really improving fuel economy as much as some of the claims lead you to believe. Not to mention the ridiculous costs of pickups, 50k+ in some cases, these days. Having brake issues like have been discussed is just ridiculous.

I know I wouldn't even consider a Ford ecoboost at this point but I like the naturally aspirated V-8 Fords just fine and the ones I drove have been very nice.

 

[Steve1300]

My 2001 F150 Lariat worked really well and was dependable - except for cylinder coils which started failing around 70k miles - one at a time. I got rid of it only because its tow capability was lower than what I needed. When I traded it in, it was sold before I signed the paper on my replacement truck. Ford makes good trucks, but no truck is perfect for everything. However, when a person wants a specific ability or feature, there is a "perfect" truck for them - unless one wants 50 MPG.