Ford F150-I'm Done.

[hslogger]

In the PNW for work trucks in the woods you see Ford crew cabs long box and the same with Dodge, mostly all diesels. Guys mostly run em for less than five years and then they are so dinged up and abused they swap em off. The Duramax GMC Chevrolets are making a dent. The guys in town with their shiny ones keep em shined and under cover, most look like they just come off the floor. I see more and more over the last decade that really are suburban toys. Man it is a lot of dough to plunk down for land yachts.

I turned into a Toyota Fan in 81 and haven't wained from that company since. Two pickups Two t100's and now this Tundra. My only complaint with it is that Toyota began following the lead of the USA mfg in tall rigs. They are a real drag to work out of the back as opposed to the lower models that allow you to reach over the rear quarter and set or grab stuff. Standard cab long box work trucks are difficult to find because the money is in the gizmos and gadgets. What impresses me with this is the suspension. Rear shocks are opposed, one side in the front, other side in the back. The 5.8 and six speed are flawless. The cab is huge. I just wish it was lower profile like the t100.

 

[oldpilgrim]

2014 - since I got it, I changed out the complete front grill and bumper to chrome, covered the mirrors and door/tailgate handles with chrome and added chrome tubular 'running' boards. I had a minor problem with the grill breaking when it ran into a car in a snow storm. Replacing the front with all chrome was $1500 more than the insurance company would pickup. It was a good decision on my part. It was cheaper to do it afterwards than to buy it all done. It looks a lot classier now. No pics after 'chroming' though.

 

[kuschneider]

Cant believe this turned into a pissing match. Maybe I can start a .270 vs .30-06 or a Mossy Oak vs Realtree thread. I'm sure that will end well.

 

[94BULLITT]

I never have understood the people who buy a pickup then cover the bed, why not just get the SUV you wanted to begin with?

What about the guys that waste valuable bed space with a tool box or fuel tank?

 

[oldpilgrim]

I'm not pissing on anyone, just saying I like the Tundra better than any previous vehicle.

 

[roadhunter]

I have an SUV and pull a trailer for dead animals in the back. No car wash needed....

LOL. Adding a trailer certainly changes the criteria here. At that point a car/trailer can be used to do most jobs a pickup or SUV would do.

Not everyone want's to pull a trailer to go hunting. Or to go to the hardware store. Or to move large furniture. etc...

 

[roadhunter]

Here ya go. :confused3:



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Glad you were able to get that out of the way as this has been quite a discussion of truck bed use LOL.

Have you figured out that there are people who have different needs that you do who might use a topper of some sort to accomplish tasks? I sure hope so as you seem to struggle with the concept that some people have different needs than you do and a topper might be the solution that works best for them.

 

[roadhunter]

What about the guys that waste valuable bed space with a tool box or fuel tank?

That is absolutely hilarious. Good one!!

 

[Steve1300]

Yep.

I've never did a mathematical test of mileage on my F250 7.3L Powerstroke. The overhead hasn't been reset for 120K miles. I'd conservatively say it's probably closer to 15mpg. But pretty good for a truck that will pull 25K Gross weight all day long and never turn more than 2500 rpms. Love my diesel. There's no replacement for displacement.





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My Titan averages the same mileage. It was much better except that it hits regen mode, and when I drive 20 miles at 10 MPG, it brings it back down to the same as you show. It does take some getting used to with new diesels. Even my tractor enters regen, but I can't track mileage. Such is life with our government regulations.

 

[PHPaul]

May I suggest a Toyota Tundra. Made in Texas! And Texas tough.

+1 on the Tundra! Never owned a Ford (only dealers within reasonable range fail to understand the concept of "deal" ) many many GM's both Chevy and GMC, and a couple of Dodges.

Most of the GM's were mechanically reliable but if you left the kitchen window open, you could HEAR them rusting. 2 of the 3 Dodges were good trucks, the '74 D100 and the '88 Dakota, but the 01 Dakota was a money pit and went away as soon as the warranty expired.

The '13 Tundra is as much truck as any I've ever owned (excepting possibly the '89 Chevy K3500 with the 454), MUCH better than the '07 GMC K2500 it replaced. Better ride, better mileage, better fit and finish, better interior and tows just as well.

I went with the Toyota based on my experience with 2 Corollas. I live on the coast of Maine and salt on the roads plus salt air from the ocean means rust is a fact of life. The '03 Corolla got traded after 9 years and it was STILL rust-free.

 

[ovrszd]

I'm not pissing on anyone, just saying I like the Tundra better than any previous vehicle.

Yeah, me neither, but owners are easily offended.

 

[ovrszd]

Glad you were able to get that out of the way as this has been quite a discussion of truck bed use LOL.

Have you figured out that there are people who have different needs that you do who might use a topper of some sort to accomplish tasks? I sure hope so as you seem to struggle with the concept that some people have different needs than you do and a topper might be the solution that works best for them.

Not sure what I said that would imply I struggle with any owner's decisions and/or uses. I simply said, as others have said here, that there are a large majority of truck owners now that don't use them as "trucks".

As someone pointed out earlier, sure makes it easy to find clean used trucks cheap.

 

[roadhunter]

Not sure what I said that would imply I struggle with any owner's decisions and/or uses. I simply said, as others have said here, that there are a large majority of truck owners now that don't use them as "trucks".

As someone pointed out earlier, sure makes it easy to find clean used trucks cheap.

Keep up the fine work and thanks for the entertainment. LAffin

 

[ovrszd]

Keep up the fine work and thanks for the entertainment. LAffin

You are welcome. Glad I could help you.

 

[KennyG]

Not to derail this, but the "cheap lightly used truck" concept isn't working here. Used truck prices seem to me sky high. Lots of good ones on the market but lots of buyers also, I guess.

 

[roadhunter]

You are welcome. Glad I could help you.

The only thing you did here was make a fool of yourself. Keep up the fine work.

 

[ovrszd]

The only thing you did here was make a fool of yourself. Keep up the fine work.

Not sure why the personal name calling. But again, you are welcome.

 

[roadhunter]

Not to derail this, but the "cheap lightly used truck" concept isn't working here. Used truck prices seem to me sky high. Lots of good ones on the market but lots of buyers also, I guess.

Yep, Oversize has this all figured out. LAffin.

Essentially he was here to stroke his ego by claiming that few people used their truck they he does. Then it progressed into claiming that people with toppers do not use their trucks. Now these trucks with toppers are "clean and easy to find cheap trucks" when in reality they are extremely valuable because they have not been used and abused.

Pretty much everything he claims has been wrong so far but at this point just let him run with it. I think it makes him feel better about himself to brag about his truck bed being used. It's mildly entertaining even with his obvious desire to turn this into an argument.

 

[roadhunter]

Not sure why the personal name calling. But again, you are welcome.

Just stating the obvious. You are welcome.

 

[ovrszd]

Not to derail this, but the "cheap lightly used truck" concept isn't working here. Used truck prices seem to me sky high. Lots of good ones on the market but lots of buyers also, I guess.

The used trucks on the market don't appear cheap at first glance. Then when you compare the asking price to that of a new truck they become very cheap.

Good friend of mine has a friend selling a 2001 Ford F250 Power Stroke Lariatt 4dr long bed 4wd truck. Straight as a pin. Never been on a gravel road. Never pulled a trailer. Shedded it's whole life. 26,000 miles. Can be bought for $20,000. Is that cheap?

At a glance it doesn't appear so. After all, it's 16 years old. But when looked at closer, considering a new one similarly equipped would cost $50,000, it begins to look very cheap indeed.

In the light truck market there are many, many trucks for sale under similar circumstances. And as you mentioned, there are many, many buyers. Those buyers aren't willing to accept the depreciation rate they will experience when buying new.