Ford F150-I'm Done.

   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #242  
Pay cash... you got them by the curley's then.

If you are persistent maybe. Nothing in it for the dealer to give you a better deal for paying cash.
 
   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #243  
If you are persistent maybe. Nothing in it for the dealer to give you a better deal for paying cash.

I tried that on our last two new ones. Made no difference. The dealer gets paid almost immediately with cash, check or loan papers.
 
   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #244  
In some cases you have to finance the truck through the manufacturer to get some of the rebates. A good dealer can work around that though.
 
   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #248  
So if I can buy a used 2012 for $37K, which I'm sure I can, would I be ahead to do that versus paying $52K for a new one???? :)
My father's 2012 Eco Boost Super Crew was 44K sticker. It was bought for about 35k and just sold with 80,000 miles for 25.5K.

Many times people get tunnel vision on new vs used. After rebates and finance rates new can be bought for nearly the same money as a 3 year old one with 36,000 miles.
 
   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #249  
My father's 2012 Eco Boost Super Crew was 44K sticker. It was bought for about 35k and just sold with 80,000 miles for 25.5K.

Many times people get tunnel vision on new vs used. After rebates and finance rates new can be bought for nearly the same money as a 3 year old one with 36,000 miles.

Yep. Your examples above support buying used AND buying new. Very confusing!!! :)
 
   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #250  
When I bought my 2011 FX4 new it stickered for $44k and I got it for about $36k...drove it for 4.5yrs and put 100k on the clock and got $22k on trade-in...probably could've gotten closer to $25k if I sold privately...not bad for 4.5yrs and 100k miles. My 2016 Lariat/FX4 stickered for $56k (several more bells & whistles than my 2011) and price was knocked down to $50k before any haggling....ended up getting it for $48.5k. And on 2016 XLTs the rebates and discounts were over $10k off before any haggling. I could've saved even more by getting a leftover 2015 BUT in 2016 Ford moved to Sync 3 (way better) and also supposedly addressed the timing chain stretch issue on the Ecoboost so it was worth paying a few extra bucks to me. Bottom line, as Diamondpilot said you can get a new truck for very close to used prices...if I can get with $3k-$5k of a used one then I buy new.
 
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   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #251  
Yep. Your examples above support buying used AND buying new. Very confusing!!! :)

He said nearly the same money. No doubt you can save some coins by buying used BUT there is some risk involved buying used and having little/less warranty left...among other things I'm sure. I like gadgets and I like newer stuff so that's part of my reasoning...not that it makes logical sense but it's my money...LOL!
 
   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #252  
That can't be. Oversize said that all those pampered f-150's with no bed damage can be bought cheap. LAffin
 
   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #254  
I don't want to say anything about my trouble-free 2006 5.4L F150. OH CRAP! Where is the wood??? :eek:
CRAP!!! you all ain't gonna believe this. I have 80K on my truck and shortly after my post above, my truck started to intermittently sound like a diesel at low rpm and then the oil pressure would drop to zero then recover. Pulled into Firestone and let them run a diagnostic check. Got a call this morning that they think it is the timing chain and there are chips in the engine. Recommendation... new engine. $11K installed! WTF?

Got online and it appears there is quite the history with cam phasers, etc. Now I am in a dilemma of what to do. Maybe limp it to the Ford dealer and trade it in? Suggestions?
 
   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #255  
CRAP!!! you all ain't gonna believe this. I have 80K on my truck and shortly after my post above, my truck started to intermittently sound like a diesel at low rpm and then the oil pressure would drop to zero then recover. Pulled into Firestone and let them run a diagnostic check. Got a call this morning that they think it is the timing chain and there are chips in the engine. Recommendation... new engine. $11K installed! WTF?

Got online and it appears there is quite the history with cam phasers, etc. Now I am in a dilemma of what to do. Maybe limp it to the Ford dealer and trade it in? Suggestions?

Bummer....... That really sucks. I think you'll get raped at the dealership trading it. But like you said, what a dilemma. :(
 
   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #256  
CRAP!!! you all ain't gonna believe this. I have 80K on my truck and shortly after my post above, my truck started to intermittently sound like a diesel at low rpm and then the oil pressure would drop to zero then recover. Pulled into Firestone and let them run a diagnostic check. Got a call this morning that they think it is the timing chain and there are chips in the engine. Recommendation... new engine. $11K installed! WTF?

Got online and it appears there is quite the history with cam phasers, etc. Now I am in a dilemma of what to do. Maybe limp it to the Ford dealer and trade it in? Suggestions?
Sorry to hear that.

First I'd want a second opinion...

Then, I'd find a custom garage and check on a rebuild price. I'm sure they can repair or rebuild, probably build you a stronger engine anyhow, for half the cost the dealership wants.
 
   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #257  
Was there any reason for this to happen such as running out of oil, being in accident, etc..?
 
   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #259  
CRAP!!! you all ain't gonna believe this. I have 80K on my truck and shortly after my post above, my truck started to intermittently sound like a diesel at low rpm and then the oil pressure would drop to zero then recover. Pulled into Firestone and let them run a diagnostic check. Got a call this morning that they think it is the timing chain and there are chips in the engine. Recommendation... new engine. $11K installed! WTF?

Got online and it appears there is quite the history with cam phasers, etc. Now I am in a dilemma of what to do. Maybe limp it to the Ford dealer and trade it in? Suggestions?

Do your truck have variable valve timing? My Merc did that at 80k and we took a educated chance and replaced 2 sensors and it worked.
 
   / Ford F150-I'm Done. #260  
According to KBB, trade in value is about $10K. I can't see spending $10K+ on a new engine. It is driveable at least to a dealer I think. What a friggin' headache. Only 80K miles!!! Been a ford guy for a long time. Wavering now and have no clue what to do. Comparable new ones are north of $50K!
 

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