Ford F150-I'm Done.

[Steppenwolfe]

Here's what I do.

1) Buy new truck ( I only buy Fords) try and pay cash if possible, or put down large down payment
2) Keep two years
3) Put about 30,000 miles on truck
4) Take around $15,000 business tax deduction for the mileage
5) Trade truck in for around $ 10 to 12 grand less than I paid, pay difference on new truck
6) Come out pretty much even after driving the truck for two years, never pay for new brakes, tires, batteries, etc.

I have done this consistently for the last 10 years, and now on my sixth truck. My accountant says I pretty much drive a free truck and has started urging other clients to do the same.

 

[TheGoose]

Sorry to hear about your troubles at only 80,000 miles. I've been looking hard at trucks for two weeks.

So I need to issue a mea culpa ( if that's the right phrase ). Turns out that it was only a minor issue and easily remedied. Truck is now running great and has a newly installed evap coil in the ac as well ( had to use ac right up until the last few weeks).

After mulling it over we're considering keeping this one. I wanted this truck to be my 200k mile rig. It still has some sort of grinding when you turn sharply at a slow speed. Mileage still sucks. I need to have the drivers seat redone (yes at 80k).

Truck is worth approx $18-22k retail. The best price on a new similar equipped truck is mid 30's to low 40's.

I was dead set on no more Fords but my wife really does not like the competitors(this is her truck). I was set to get a really nice ram 1500 with quite a few options than the F150 and 5k cheaper. She hated the ram because she said it just didn't look right with the huge front grill and short bed. Like a short person with a huge head. In her words "looking at the truck standing still it looks like it should tip over". Almost impossible to find one with the 6'4" box too. She also hated the loud exhaust (I didn't mind)

The GM twins didn't make the cut due to the poor rear seating even in crew cab models.

IF I go back with a ford I will only buy one with a 5.0 v8 and if I can find it 3.73 gears. I no longer require the 6.5' box which makes finding one much easier.

She wouldn't consider either Toyota or Nissan either.

I'm hoping we can get a chance to go to a large dealer and find the ram with the 6'4" box. I would love to find one with the built in ram boxes as well.

 

[Sysop]

Sounds like she wants an American truck... Good for her! She's a keeper!

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

CRAP!!! you all ain't gonna believe this. I have 80K on my truck and shortly after my post above, my truck started to intermittently sound like a diesel at low rpm and then the oil pressure would drop to zero then recover. Pulled into Firestone and let them run a diagnostic check. Got a call this morning that they think it is the timing chain and there are chips in the engine. Recommendation... new engine. $11K installed! WTF?

Got online and it appears there is quite the history with cam phasers, etc. Now I am in a dilemma of what to do. Maybe limp it to the Ford dealer and trade it in? Suggestions?

yes, go trade it in at Ford. Diamond pilot can help you get 25 grand for it on trade.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Sorry to hear about your troubles at only 80,000 miles. I've been looking hard at trucks for two weeks.

So I need to issue a mea culpa ( if that's the right phrase ). Turns out that it was only a minor issue and easily remedied. Truck is now running great and has a newly installed evap coil in the ac as well ( had to use ac right up until the last few weeks).

After mulling it over we're considering keeping this one. I wanted this truck to be my 200k mile rig. It still has some sort of grinding when you turn sharply at a slow speed. Mileage still sucks. I need to have the drivers seat redone (yes at 80k).

Truck is worth approx $18-22k retail. The best price on a new similar equipped truck is mid 30's to low 40's.

I was dead set on no more Fords but my wife really does not like the competitors(this is her truck). I was set to get a really nice ram 1500 with quite a few options than the F150 and 5k cheaper. She hated the ram because she said it just didn't look right with the huge front grill and short bed. Like a short person with a huge head. In her words "looking at the truck standing still it looks like it should tip over". Almost impossible to find one with the 6'4" box too. She also hated the loud exhaust (I didn't mind)

The GM twins didn't make the cut due to the poor rear seating even in crew cab models.

IF I go back with a ford I will only buy one with a 5.0 v8 and if I can find it 3.73 gears. I no longer require the 6.5' box which makes finding one much easier.

She wouldn't consider either Toyota or Nissan either.

I'm hoping we can get a chance to go to a large dealer and find the ram with the 6'4" box. I would love to find one with the built in ram boxes as well.

So come on and tell us what was wrong, so the next guy won't have to waste his money.

You should blindfold your wife and take her riding in a Tundra and Nissan. I know, I know, they are all worried about how they look....women are filled with horrormones sometimes.

 

[dragoneggs]

Sorry to hear about your troubles at only 80,000 miles. I've been looking hard at trucks for two weeks.

So I need to issue a mea culpa ( if that's the right phrase ). Turns out that it was only a minor issue and easily remedied. Truck is now running great and has a newly installed evap coil in the ac as well ( had to use ac right up until the last few weeks).

After mulling it over we're considering keeping this one. I wanted this truck to be my 200k mile rig. It still has some sort of grinding when you turn sharply at a slow speed. Mileage still sucks. I need to have the drivers seat redone (yes at 80k).

Truck is worth approx $18-22k retail. The best price on a new similar equipped truck is mid 30's to low 40's.

I was dead set on no more Fords but my wife really does not like the competitors(this is her truck). I was set to get a really nice ram 1500 with quite a few options than the F150 and 5k cheaper. She hated the ram because she said it just didn't look right with the huge front grill and short bed. Like a short person with a huge head. In her words "looking at the truck standing still it looks like it should tip over". Almost impossible to find one with the 6'4" box too. She also hated the loud exhaust (I didn't mind)

The GM twins didn't make the cut due to the poor rear seating even in crew cab models.

IF I go back with a ford I will only buy one with a 5.0 v8 and if I can find it 3.73 gears. I no longer require the 6.5' box which makes finding one much easier.

She wouldn't consider either Toyota or Nissan either.

I'm hoping we can get a chance to go to a large dealer and find the ram with the 6'4" box. I would love to find one with the built in ram boxes as well.

I don't think you mentioned year and engine other than it must be relatively new and ecoboost? And what was the problem exactly?

I'm pretty sure I will end up with a Ford again whether it is just a major repair, new engine or a new truck! I'm a V8 guy still and although the ecoboost sounds good for occasional towing and it's relatively quick... I'm not sure I am ready to go that way vs. the 5.0. Power/torque specs almost identical though. More reading necessary.

 

[94BULLITT]

I don't think you mentioned year and engine other than it must be relatively new and ecoboost? And what was the problem exactly?

I'm pretty sure I will end up with a Ford again whether it is just a major repair, new engine or a new truck! I'm a V8 guy still and although the ecoboost sounds good for occasional towing and it's relatively quick... I'm not sure I am ready to go that way vs. the 5.0. Power/torque specs almost identical though. More reading necessary.

An engine for your truck from Ford is going to be $5,000-6000. Then you will still need stuff like hoses, a belt, fluids, and other small parts. You may also have to replace the exhaust manifolds. If you do compare them to the price of a set of short tube headers.

 

[check]

Gheez, dragoneggs, I really feel for you. That would drive me crazy!

As for me, I guess I dodged a bullet. I had two of the 5.4 L F150's, and didn't have any of those problems. I did hear a ticking on one of them, but the dealer said they just do that and that I could safely ignore it. So I did, and it never developed into anything.
My last two F150s had/have the 5.0 L, and touch wood no problems so far. Lots of power, a nice throaty but muted roar, and a real nice smooth six speed transmission.

 

[ClaySlayer]

I don't think you mentioned year and engine other than it must be relatively new and ecoboost? And what was the problem exactly?

I'm pretty sure I will end up with a Ford again whether it is just a major repair, new engine or a new truck! I'm a V8 guy still and although the ecoboost sounds good for occasional towing and it's relatively quick... I'm not sure I am ready to go that way vs. the 5.0. Power/torque specs almost identical though. More reading necessary.

Peak Power/Torque is very close but with the EB it's the fact that it's making close to 100lbs of torque more at 2,500rpm than the 5.0. Believe me you feel that difference with a CUT in tow whether pulling out, mid range/passing acceleration, or holding speed while going uphill. Not that the 5.0 can't get the job done as I had one until this past Mar (traded on a 2016 w/EB) but the EB just does it without as much drama/RPM/downshifting. Only thing I miss about the 5.0 was the exhaust note...man it sounded great with a magnaflow muffler... If money were no object I'd have a 5.0 with a supercharger! Speaking of which...a mildly built 5.4 wouldn't be a bad option in your case. Lord knows there's plenty of "recipes" out there. Do that and then replace shocks and bushings in the suspension and it'll feel new again.

 

[dragoneggs]

Peak Power/Torque is very close but with the EB it's the fact that it's making close to 100lbs of torque more at 2,500rpm than the 5.0. Believe me you feel that difference with a CUT in tow whether pulling out, mid range/passing acceleration, or holding speed while going uphill. Not that the 5.0 can't get the job done as I had one until this past Mar (traded on a 2016 w/EB) but the EB just does it without as much drama/RPM/downshifting. Only thing I miss about the 5.0 was the exhaust note...man it sounded great with a magnaflow muffler... If money were no object I'd have a 5.0 with a supercharger! Speaking of which...a mildly built 5.4 wouldn't be a bad option in your case. Lord knows there's plenty of "recipes" out there. Do that and then replace shocks and bushings in the suspension and it'll feel new again.

True enough... I see the 0-30 is 1.9sec for the ecoboost. That is impressive! Not that I am an off-the-line guy anymore. But definitely the low end torque is NICE!