Handgun for arthritis

[Sigarms]

I am not familsrbwith25acp. But I hand load and spend a lot of time reading manuals.

I am by no means any expert. But to a say I can not partake in the discussion. When I have loaded thousands, studied trajectory, is arrogance on your part. Again I am a novice. But I think can talk on some forum, with a guy who likes 22lr, because he doesn't want to admit his wife is under gunned because she is scared, or you are, is bs.

I hope your wife has time to keep pulling the trigger. I hope she is calm. I hope the guy isn't full of drugs. I hope he doesn't have a heavy coat on.

Dang, we've gone from the age old 9mm vs .40 to even smaller calibers.

Any man who tells me that a certain caliber handgun isn't good enough for self protection from two legged critters because "it's too small" I only ask one thing..."will you let me shoot you with that caliber?". Funny enough, no one has ever taken me up on that question.

A gun is a tool, nothing more. A tool's effectiveness is only as good as the person operating the tool.

Shot placement is EVERYTHING.

When I was in Alaska, it's not fiction that the Inuits used everything from .22LR to .223 for VERY large animals.

That said, I don't think the OP was looking for a debate over a 22LR

 

[bigtiller]

Just this week a St. Bernard attacked a man leaving his forearm clothing torn and skin punctured. The man ended the attack with a shot to the chest with a .38 filled with birdshot. The dog went home.

 

[bcp]

Dogs shouldn't be allowed to have guns.

From:
Police: Man shoots St. Bernard in self defense

"A man shot a St. Bernard with a revolver on Thursday, police say."



Bruce

 

[Zerk]

Any man who tells me that a certain caliber handgun isn't good enough for self protection from two legged critters because "it's too small" I only ask one thing..."will you let me shoot you with that caliber?". Funny enough, no one has ever taken me up on that question.


Shot placement is EVERYTHING.

Would you use a butter knife to gut a deer?

Sure any normal person will stop when shot with a 22 in pinky. Problem is bad guys are not normal. They are crazy, on drugs, and desperate.

It blows my mind people don't understand stopping power.

Why do you think the military and police don't use .22s? LIght weight, good marksmanship scores, cheap to fire, and women can handle them.


Chris Kyle didn't even like 5.56. Said he would shoot them 5 or 6 times until they were 15 yards away. He was a guy with better marksmanship skills, and kills, then any of us.

I just don't understand why we have this arguement.


Not to mention the Miami Shootout. Granted we have plus Ps now.

Shot placement is EVERYTHING.

Sure is. Do you have that at night when a guy jumps out of the shadows at you, from 10 feet away?

Boggles my mind the people that don't live in the real world, or watch to many movies.

 

[Zerk]

A gun is a tool, nothing more. A tool's effectiveness is only as good as the person operating the tool.

This here shows how foolish you are.

You should use the right tool for the job. Every tool can become a hammer, and every screw driver a pry bar, but you would be better suited choosing the right tool for the job.

 

[Zerk]

That said, I don't think the OP was looking for a debate over a 22LR

Little late for you to realize this.

But you got this arrogant types that like to run on about what a perfect shot they are, and how cool under pressure they are.

Not me, guy trys to rape me, I am going to be scared. I'll take a .357 in shoulder, over 22 to the body for my shot. Actually I am 44special guy.

 

[two_bit_score]

That Mares Leg reminds me of the M-1 Carbine I had. My parents asked to borrow it because there house had been burgled at night while they were home & they wanted some protection, so instead of buying them a gun I loaned them my M-1. Of course it got stolen in about 6 months.

It was a fun gun and probably handled like the Mares leg.

Just found out, almost 50 years later that if the cops come across it, I can get it back; I just need to update my address for their records.

You need to get a copy of the original offense report and be sure it was reported to NCIC and keep in touch with the original agency to be sure they keep the stolen notice active. Guns are 'supposed' to remain active but they do purge inactive records periodically.

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[Pilot]

OP here.

Wow, my original post sure generated a lot of replies. I hope some of them help others with similar problems. Clerks in gun shops say they see a lot of people with similar problems. A gal working at one shop says she use to shoot competitively but can't handle 1911 any more because the recoil from thousands of rounds has damaged her wrist.

A little clarification.
For those who say to see a doctor, it's osteoarthritis, not RA. Stomach can't tolerate NSAIDs. Hand specialist says he can't do anything for me. Best treatment has come from a physical therapist. Been doing hand exercises which help a little.

Have looked a lot of guns in various shops. So far, the S&W Victory (.22LR) comes closest to something I can handle, but it's only a .22. I plan to go to the next gun show which ought to have many times more guns than the gun shops around here.

One thing I really like about my Blackhawk is the balance, that forward center of gravity really helps to keep the front sight steady. Haven't seen any new guns that good in that department. If I were to (or could) take up target shooting, I think I would use that old gun.

 

[k0ua]

Here are a couple of points to ponder. In general larger, heavier handguns have less recoil for a given caliber. That is just common physics, and on top of that since they have full size grips they are easier for stiff fingers to grasp, and overall are easier to shoot and hit with. Now let's take some examples.

Which is easier to shoot and hit with for most people a Glock 17 full size or a Glock 26 subcompact? Both handle the same 9mm round. Easily the Glock 17. NOW which is easier to pull the slide back with arthritic fingers? The full size, Glock 17 wins again, and here is why.

It is because there is more slide mass so the recoil spring can be a bit longer and lighter.

The subcompact has to have a short stiff spring to fit inside a given slide size and it is harder for weak handed people to retract it easily. The recoil spring in the subcompact still has to soak up the recoil of the 9mm round but has a lot less space to do it in.

Sure, there are methods of retracting the slide such as just holding the slide with your weak hand and shoving the frame forward with your strong hand that can make retraction somewhat easier, but why not start with an easier to retract slide to start with?

A real difference will be noted with a full size steel 1911 chambered in 9mm. It is a very soft shooting firearm with a weak recoil spring since that is all that is needed and it will be very easy to retract. AND most will have nice easy triggers too. So to sum up, people with weak hands and stiff fingers should gravitate to larger, and smoother handling firearms for more pleasant results. And that is all I have to say about that.

 

[k0ua]

OP here.

Wow, my original post sure generated a lot of replies. I hope some of them help others with similar problems. Clerks in gun shops say they see a lot of people with similar problems. A gal working at one shop says she use to shoot competitively but can't handle 1911 any more because the recoil from thousands of rounds has damaged her wrist.

A little clarification.
For those who say to see a doctor, it's osteoarthritis, not RA. Stomach can't tolerate NSAIDs. Hand specialist says he can't do anything for me. Best treatment has come from a physical therapist. Been doing hand exercises which help a little.

Have looked a lot of guns in various shops. So far, the S&W Victory (.22LR) comes closest to something I can handle, but it's only a .22. I plan to go to the next gun show which ought to have many times more guns than the gun shops around here.

One thing I really like about my Blackhawk is the balance, that forward center of gravity really helps to keep the front sight steady. Haven't seen any new guns that good in that department. If I were to (or could) take up target shooting, I think I would use that old gun.

Keep in mind the 1911 she reference would be the one chambered in .45acp with loads that make major power factor. Try one in standard loadings for a 9mm, and it is like shooting a .22 rimfire. Night and day difference.