Buying a JD 3039R, I think.

[Musdalen]

Oldoak. Sounds like the equivalent of using an internet forum.

Back in the day, how many options could you get for your Ford 8N? About two, maybe three? How many tractor colors did my grandfather even have to choose from? 1. Maybe 2.

 

[ovrszd]

I guess the true old salts just went out and bought whatever without talking to anyone and always got it right. Nope, they never discussed their needs with the neighbors at breakfast over at the corner cafe on Saturday mornings. Nope. Just born knowing everything.

Dealers back then certainly were more lnowledgable too, of course there was no point in that since the old salt already knew everything anyway.

You be cynical, man. Very.

Just logical.

 

[JDub115]

It's funny there are a ton of the same thread that I posted, and I thought this site was different from the rest because most all had good replies. Just kinda makes people who don't know it all feel a little better about a large purchase...my dealer in south Florida doesn't sell a ton of tractors, he has some answers and needs to ask his rep for others. So doing research online helps me.

At the end of the day this is a want not a need for me, I'm sure the 3039r is way more then I'll need and I appreciate everyone who's responded to not only mine but all the other similar threads. I've read most of them..

 

[jenkinsph]

It's funny there are a ton of the same thread that I posted, and I thought this site was different from the rest because most all had good replies. Just kinda makes people who don't know it all feel a little better about a large purchase...my dealer in south Florida doesn't sell a ton of tractors, he has some answers and needs to ask his rep for others. So doing research online helps me.

At the end of the day this is a want not a need for me, I'm sure the 3039r is way more then I'll need and I appreciate everyone who's responded to not only mine but all the other similar threads. I've read most of them..

I suspect you will find that for most jobs the 3039R will a good fit. You will find it is too big for a job here and there and likewise too small for a major job. That said you may never need anything else for your property. Hope it works out well for you.

 

[Wagtail]

Well I'm back from helping out yesterday as a time-keeper for the Pyengana Endurance Race... only to find this discussion on Salesman/Dealerships.

Anyway, I've posted many times on finding out the reputation of your local area dealerships and using that as a factor in choosing your tractor. Circumstances of course play a part but if the salesman doesn't 'know' tractors, then I'd say you find one who does. Tractors, by and large, work & last a heck of a lot longer than a car or ute = you're going to be dealing with your dealership for a relatively long period of years (parts/service/advice).

I mentioned 'circumstances'. In my case, I live on an island State with an overall population of just under 520,000; just over half of which live rural. Which means, outside of the "Big Smoke Townies" (laughingly but true) you pretty much get know each other or of each other. That also means that "word travels fast", so a tractor dealership's reputation will make or break them. Being such a rural State you'd think that we'd be inundated with TV advertising from the various tractor/implement colours, but the opposite is true. Also, living on an island means we've got a huge moat around us; which means shipping/transport/distance costs = yes you can buy a used (previously loved? ) tractor from the mainland, but you've still got to get it here. There are no multiple coloured dealerships here: 1 JD (3 branches), 1 CASE IH, etc...

I happen to know that all of my Tasmanian JD salesmen are farmers or semi-retired farmers themselves. It's part of their reputation here. [I can't speak to the other dealerships as I've not dealt with them, but they'd be fools if it wasn't the same]

When I went (2 hr drive) to visit the JD dealership, I brought a long-time local Mate with me [Note: he owns an old small YANMAR]. Turned out that they (Mate and salesman) had quite a few acquaintances, but other than that my Mate just sat quietly by while the salesman & I talked. He asked a lot of questions about what I was going to use my tractor for... the hp kept climbing, along with the price!

Short story is that the salesman could have sold me a 45hp tractor and I would've been none the wiser. Instead he sold me a less expensive (41hp) tractor that fitted my needs. Yes, I signed the order chit... no money down (I was paying cash) until the tractor & implements were delivered to me, and a handshake. Done.

Maybe I live in a land that time forgot, but it's the way things are done here.

 

[mike69440]

It's funny there are a ton of the same thread that I posted, and I thought this site was different from the rest because most all had good replies. Just kinda makes people who don't know it all feel a little better about a large purchase...my dealer in south Florida doesn't sell a ton of tractors, he has some answers and needs to ask his rep for others. So doing research online helps me.

At the end of the day this is a want not a need for me, I'm sure the 3039r is way more then I'll need and I appreciate everyone who's responded to not only mine but all the other similar threads. I've read most of them..

I would hope you option the 165 loader, otherwise you get small CUT capability, in a Mid size CUT machine.

 

[JDub115]

I would hope you option the 165 loader, otherwise you get small CUT capability, in a Mid size CUT machine.

Yes getting the 165 loader...

any reason to step up to the 3046r? Looks like there is a 2.8 hp pto difference for around 4K bucks more..

 

[Musdalen]

I havn't run out of horses on my 3039/165 yet. Of course, I only have 14 hrs on her. I think, short of plowing fields, I don't know what I would do with more horses, personally.

 

[mike69440]

I have a Kubota L39 GST, not HST and the fuel has been turned up for maybe another 5% in power. The L39 weighs twice what your tractor weighs, and due to weight, I'd like more power, +50 would be nice.

So at your weight tractor, your are just fine. Do't worry about it, unless you have money and just like power. The 3039R will feel like a hot rod compared my my lumbering tractor.

I also have a Max28, at near 3500 lbs with ballast. It has just about the right amount of oomph for it's size.

I don't even know why Deere offers the 160 FEL?

 

[jenkinsph]

Yes getting the 165 loader...

any reason to step up to the 3046r? Looks like there is a 2.8 hp pto difference for around 4K bucks more..

Depends on how much pto work you are doing. From my experience the pto ratings seem to be conservative, when I look at my 4520 tractor the Nebraska test reports show higher hp under testing than Deere shows in the specifications. Deere rated my 4520 cab with ehydro transmission at 50 hp while Nebraska test reports results were 55.96 IIRC. I am sure some individual tractors will vary so Deere will play it safe with the reduced 50 hp number.

The higher horsepower tractors within a series that use the same physical size tractors perform with a higher ground speed than the lower horsepower counterparts. If you pull a moderate to heavy load in B range with either the 3033R, 3039R or 3046R you will notice the difference in the higher hp. tractor will be able maintain rpms much better resulting in a higher travel speed. Mowing in the thick stuff the higher hp model will not slow down nearly as much as the lower hp models.

All three models can slip the tires in low range, that really does not require much power to do. All three can move the same size load and are all limited by the weight and traction. The higher hp tractor can do everything faster when required. That can equate to less time mowing when properly matched to the right brush mower. Recognize that all pto hp ratings are measured with the tractor in park, the power required to provide travel for the tractor depletes these figures.

I have not looked at the new 3xxx models recently but there are other options that may be included beyond the hp difference. Compare the two to see what is included with the 3046R, air ride seat may be one example, ehydro is standard and so on.

I can say from my own use that I prefer the higher hp models for my use but either of the two, 3039R or 3046R will get the job done.