GC cold weather start ??

[Snobdds]

Yup, I'd be banging my head also If'n the concept of what it takes to start engines in cold weather just weren't there.

lol. You're right, the concept is lost on me. Those OEM's can't make a diesel that can start in cold weather, regardless of modern synthetic oil's and glow plugs. Furthermore, these little tractors freeze up solid, just ask that Axle guy, in a cold spell and the rotating mass of metal lacks sufficient lubrication to even turn over, due to the frictional losses a few ice crystals make. As you know the only remedy to this is a good ole blanket with a heater placed in such a way to heat the fragile metal to such a temperature that those cold Canadian winds don't hurt it. Then we must not forget the starter that can't seem to turn over unless we have a 50 amp battery charger hooked up to it, this is of course for anything below 32...thats 0 for you Canucks...eh.

 

[atsah]

A garage with a grampa bear in it is in the works when the Frost leaves the ground in May at my place, can't wait to get started.

 

[AxleHub]

Atsah, kinda an off topic question. When we watch national weather on abc or other channels. . they talk about such and such 's moving into the New England states. . . . Then they'll mention New York and Connecticut and Maryland and Vermont real fast as a grouping. But they never seem to say Maine as part of the New England states.

At the same time the New England Patriots play in Massachusetts. I'm confused why Maine which is a fair sized state gets so little attention or notice. . . and why the New England states" seems to refer to so many states unlike no other part of the country. I never hear about your weather but Maryland and Vermont and PA and MA are always talked about.
I would personally think Maine would be pretty but cold and heavy snows and rains. . . but it's not what they report. Strange.

 

[atsah]

Very true, it seems that MA, RI, CT, and other's hype everything up in the subject of weather, if they get a foot of snow it's automatically a blizzard and most times they get 5 inches. A 20 inch snow storm is pretty common around here and we take it in stride, we have 5 ft of snow in the woods right now down from 6ft.

We think nothing of it really, it's the norm here but if it happens down south it's the worst thing since the war.

I watch the news when I visit family in MA and it reminds me why I left that place.

 

[Egon]

lol. You're right, the concept is lost on me. Those OEM's can't make a diesel that can start in cold weather, regardless of modern synthetic oil's and glow plugs. Furthermore, these little tractors freeze up solid, just ask that Axle guy, in a cold spell and the rotating mass of metal lacks sufficient lubrication to even turn over, due to the frictional losses a few ice crystals make. As you know the only remedy to this is a good ole blanket with a heater placed in such a way to heat the fragile metal to such a temperature that those cold Canadian winds don't hurt it. Then we must not forget the starter that can't seem to turn over unless we have a 50 amp battery charger hooked up to it, this is of course for anything below 32...thats 0 for you Canucks...eh.

Yup; lots of reasons to bang your head!

 

[edgarrian]

Well that was an interesting read. I grew up on a farm and we didn't normally have block heaters on our tractors, we also purchased used. So if they came with one then it was used. If it didn't then it was no big deal. I have a block heater for my little tractor and use it when I know I'm about to use the tractor when it is cold. Personally for me its just convenience. I don't get into all the theories I just like the fact that its somewhat warm when i start it. Kind of like having a tiller. Something Ill rarely use but its great to have for the convenience. Or QA. Don't need that either but it sure makes it easier.

 

[Snobdds]

Yup; lots of reasons to bang your head!

WEAK!

 

[buickanddeere]

lol. You're right, the concept is lost on me. Those OEM's can't make a diesel that can start in cold weather, regardless of modern synthetic oil's and glow plugs. Furthermore, these little tractors freeze up solid, just ask that Axle guy, in a cold spell and the rotating mass of metal lacks sufficient lubrication to even turn over, due to the frictional losses a few ice crystals make. As you know the only remedy to this is a good ole blanket with a heater placed in such a way to heat the fragile metal to such a temperature that those cold Canadian winds don't hurt it. Then we must not forget the starter that can't seem to turn over unless we have a 50 amp battery charger hooked up to it, this is of course for anything below 32...thats 0 for you Canucks...eh.

How do you start diesels without glow plugs or intake grid heaters? Why do you prefer the engine to rattle for the first few minutes of operation? Why do you want to idle for an extended time while burning expensive fuel instead of a short warmup after heating with cheap electricity ?

 

[Snobdds]

How do you start diesels without glow plugs or intake grid heaters? Why do you prefer the engine to rattle for the first few minutes of operation? Why do you want to idle for an extended time while burning expensive fuel instead of a short warmup after heating with cheap electricity ?

I guess you should quote where I said to start without glow plugs or grid heaters. Then we can have a quality discussion without hyperbole. :thumbsup:

 

[buickanddeere]

I guess you should quote where I said to start without glow plugs or grid heaters. Then we can have a quality discussion without hyperbole. :thumbsup:

No block heater, no glow plugs, no inlet grid heater and no ether . Now hit the starter on that diesel at -20F .