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rgr33
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I am in the same situation as you, Otto. 10 acres sloped, with vineyard, orchard, and grassland to be worked.
I wonder if 25 hp is enough, especially with HST and on sloping ground. You might give some thought to something in the 30 to 35 hp range. My 27 hp JD struggles under load going up the hill once in a while, the 33 hp doesn't. Just my 2 cents worth.
I wonder if 25 hp is enough, especially with HST and on sloping ground. You might give some thought to something in the 30 to 35 hp range. My 27 hp JD struggles under load going up the hill once in a while, the 33 hp doesn't. Just my 2 cents worth.
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Consider engine displacement along with horsepower. These are DIESEL tractors.
Kubota L2501 = 25 horsepower from 100 cubic inches. This model "punches above its weight."
Kubota L2501 = 25 horsepower from 100 cubic inches. This model "punches above its weight."
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Here is an un-powered, modular cultivating implement that might work for you:
VIDEO UNVERFERTH "PERFECTA": Cultivating with a Perfecta - YouTube
Perfectas come in 48" and 60" widths ~~~~~ and up.
Perfecta in video and PTO powered roto-tillers are priced about the same.
VIDEO UNVERFERTH "PERFECTA": Cultivating with a Perfecta - YouTube
Perfectas come in 48" and 60" widths ~~~~~ and up.
Perfecta in video and PTO powered roto-tillers are priced about the same.
Wow! Thanks! That is slick. I've even got a dealer a few miles away. Might be time for a field trip.
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Otto,
A couple years ago I met someone who had some similar needs as yours. . A small country farmette of 10 acres. Higher land and lower land with a large pond. He wanted to use a 3pt tiller and a flail and mow some lawn. Etc. Etc.. He had fallen to the weakness of believing heavier and bigger is always better as he bought a new LS that gave him problems one after the other.
I suggested he consider a Massey GC1715 sub compact for all the reasons he had but none of the problems he had.
He got better maneuvering capability and a SCUT GC1715 will do very well on slopes (as I personally know) . . . because it is not high off the ground and its weight sits lower for center of gravity needs. It's center of gravity was far better than his mid sized compact LS and adding a smaller sized spacer (like 2 inches) to a scut - makes a large change also because the cog is already preferred. And he could not only handle the slopes well but he had better turning radius and closer handling to his trees and corners and tighter areas. . so his time to accomplish jobs was about efficiency. . . not size. My point to him was - anyone can cut or work in wide open spaces - but far fewer can work efficiently in smaller and narrower spaces and lanes.
He could lift 700 and 800 pounds with his loader which was more than ample for his needs. . But more importantly . . . he could use it in tighter spots as well as open areas. His flail works well and his tiller runs great but his tractor with turf tires does NOT crush the dirt he works so hard to plant and grow for ground cover or under-cover with corn as the top cover. If he had 5 times the land. . He'd have a lot more open land to work on and then the larger LS would have been fine. But the point is. . . he didn't have 5 times the size. And if he wants to lift a 500 pound log or 600 or 700 . . . He can . . . But most of his logs are 300 and 400 pounds. . so he still can - but again do it around tighter areas.
The point is. . . Would you rather hire a laborer who is big and strong. . . Or one who is smaller and faster and uses leverage and efficiency as his focus. If you have big jobs in big spaces - don't get a scut. But your description does not indicate big jobs in big spaces.
Many claim bigger and heavier are "always" the way to go. . but that is a fallacy. Fit the capabilities to the needs and not to the weight. If you need lots of ground clearance in woods or heavily plowed rough fields - then buy a compact. . . but understand that slopes will be a greater challenge - doable - but more challenging.
My friend has been incredibly happy with his Massey gc1715. He chose compact size the first time and chose SCUT size the second time. . . Then looked at numerous brands and agreed the Massey in the 25 horse with the dl95 loader capabilities was his choice to work with his tiller and flail. Name brand - not off brand - long history of designing and building scuts - the tractor and the engines - made by the same entity.
He also is doing some snow plowing with it. . . again the Turf tires gives him great traction.
If you look at Kubota - then the BX2680 is the one to compare to or JD 1025. If you need a good backhoe - then the Massey GC1720 (same GC1715 plus integrated backhoe).
jmho
A couple years ago I met someone who had some similar needs as yours. . A small country farmette of 10 acres. Higher land and lower land with a large pond. He wanted to use a 3pt tiller and a flail and mow some lawn. Etc. Etc.. He had fallen to the weakness of believing heavier and bigger is always better as he bought a new LS that gave him problems one after the other.
I suggested he consider a Massey GC1715 sub compact for all the reasons he had but none of the problems he had.
He got better maneuvering capability and a SCUT GC1715 will do very well on slopes (as I personally know) . . . because it is not high off the ground and its weight sits lower for center of gravity needs. It's center of gravity was far better than his mid sized compact LS and adding a smaller sized spacer (like 2 inches) to a scut - makes a large change also because the cog is already preferred. And he could not only handle the slopes well but he had better turning radius and closer handling to his trees and corners and tighter areas. . so his time to accomplish jobs was about efficiency. . . not size. My point to him was - anyone can cut or work in wide open spaces - but far fewer can work efficiently in smaller and narrower spaces and lanes.
He could lift 700 and 800 pounds with his loader which was more than ample for his needs. . But more importantly . . . he could use it in tighter spots as well as open areas. His flail works well and his tiller runs great but his tractor with turf tires does NOT crush the dirt he works so hard to plant and grow for ground cover or under-cover with corn as the top cover. If he had 5 times the land. . He'd have a lot more open land to work on and then the larger LS would have been fine. But the point is. . . he didn't have 5 times the size. And if he wants to lift a 500 pound log or 600 or 700 . . . He can . . . But most of his logs are 300 and 400 pounds. . so he still can - but again do it around tighter areas.
The point is. . . Would you rather hire a laborer who is big and strong. . . Or one who is smaller and faster and uses leverage and efficiency as his focus. If you have big jobs in big spaces - don't get a scut. But your description does not indicate big jobs in big spaces.
Many claim bigger and heavier are "always" the way to go. . but that is a fallacy. Fit the capabilities to the needs and not to the weight. If you need lots of ground clearance in woods or heavily plowed rough fields - then buy a compact. . . but understand that slopes will be a greater challenge - doable - but more challenging.
My friend has been incredibly happy with his Massey gc1715. He chose compact size the first time and chose SCUT size the second time. . . Then looked at numerous brands and agreed the Massey in the 25 horse with the dl95 loader capabilities was his choice to work with his tiller and flail. Name brand - not off brand - long history of designing and building scuts - the tractor and the engines - made by the same entity.
He also is doing some snow plowing with it. . . again the Turf tires gives him great traction.
If you look at Kubota - then the BX2680 is the one to compare to or JD 1025. If you need a good backhoe - then the Massey GC1720 (same GC1715 plus integrated backhoe).
jmho
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