Electric Cars: Chev Bolt seems to be the first practical one.

[IslandTractor]

one or one hundred...opinions don't mean didly...changing the TOBs and pro-rating previously recorded data is fact that cannot be denied...the only baloney is the convoluted results the powers that be have duped so many fools into believing...
Watch and learn...!

NOAA and other sources of weather data have never hidden their corrections and apparently the climatology community agrees with what they have done. No conspiracy here. Monitoring Global and U.S. Temperatures at NOAA's National Centers for Environmental Information | Monitoring References | National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI)

Do you also think the melting of sea ice to open the NW Passage is just photoshopped??

 

[joea99]

Best hydrogen fuel available now is diesel, greens don't like that so, hydrogen is dead.

Hydrogen, as in gas, not as in the atoms in hydrocarbon fuels, such as diesel and gasoline. Think Hindenburg without the flames. The Hydrogen is reacted in the cell to create electricity to power the car. The only combustion byproduct is water vapor. That's about as "green" as you can get.

Hydrogen can be produced in many ways, some green, some not.

 

[/pine]

NOAA and other sources of weather data have never hidden their corrections and apparently the climatology community agrees with what they have done. No conspiracy here. Monitoring Global and U.S. Temperatures at NOAA's National Centers for Environmental Information | Monitoring References | National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI)

Do you also think the melting of sea ice to open the NW Passage is just photoshopped??

A few posts back I predicted you or one of the other misguided souls would cite this spiel that is their (NASA/NOAA) story er "excuse"...the issue is when they how selectively they "made adjustments"...they certainly are not going to publish that information...

Like I said...so many of you can't see the forest for the trees...it's over...most of the insiders knew it several years ago when they started making the TOB adjustments...below is a quote from one of the first intellectual insiders that read the writing on the wall and fled the burning ship...and made the statement below as a way of saving grace...:

EU climate commissioner Connie Hedegaard revealed: Global Warming Policy Is Right Even If Science Is Wrong. Hedegaard said in 2013, 鏑et痴 say that science, some decades from now, said 層e were wrong, it was not about climate, would it not in any case have been good to do many of things you have to do in order to combat climate change?

 

[houstonscott]

Hydrogen, as in gas, not as in the atoms in hydrocarbon fuels, such as diesel and gasoline. Think Hindenburg without the flames. The Hydrogen is reacted in the cell to create electricity to power the car. The only combustion byproduct is water vapor. That's about as "green" as you can get. Hydrogen can be produced in many ways, some green, some not.

That's right and diesel is full of of hydrogen, no need to go pure hydrogen fuel for a fuel cell to work.

 

[IslandTractor]

Hydrogen, as in gas, not as in the atoms in hydrocarbon fuels, such as diesel and gasoline. Think Hindenburg without the flames. The Hydrogen is reacted in the cell to create electricity to power the car. The only combustion byproduct is water vapor. That's about as "green" as you can get.

Hydrogen can be produced in many ways, some green, some not.

You seem to be forgetting NOx and particulates which come with diesel combustion.

Ask VW about it.

 

[sd455dan]

A few posts back I predicted you or one of the other misguided souls would cite this spiel that is their (NASA/NOAA) story er "excuse"...the issue is when they how selectively they "made adjustments"...they certainly are not going to publish that information...

Like I said...so many of you can't see the forest for the trees...it's over...most of the insiders knew it several years ago when they started making the TOB adjustments...below is a quote from one of the first intellectual insiders that read the writing on the wall and fled the burning ship...and made the statement below as a way of saving grace...:

Well they weren't the 1st...maybe they learned that bad behavior here

(editing) by a lawyer with no background in environmental science during the Bush admin...

Bush covers up climate research | Environment | The Guardian

 

[IslandTractor]

\pine, I'm afraid you are the one drinking the koolaid on this AGW issue. Your "science" is limited to whatever supports your political beliefs. The scientific community is very well aware of all your objections and essentially dismisses them as ill informed and too much focused on finding conspiracy where there is none. Believe me, any scientist who could poke a legitimate hole in AGW theory would get all the press and funding they'd ever need from a multitude of sources and organizations. The simple fact is there is almost no real science to back up right wing political ideology on climate change. There is still work to be done but to date virtually none of the serious work by serious scientists is backing your position. Therefore you spend your time looking for conspiracies and making inane comments like "it's settled". Sad.

 

[buickanddeere]

Ever notice when a global cooling/global warming/climate change/greenie is asked about the Medevel Warming Trend and the Little Ice Age . They conveniently get quiet or they change the topic.

 

[/pine]

\pine, I'm afraid you are the one drinking the koolaid on this AGW issue. Your "science" is limited to whatever supports your political beliefs. The scientific community is very well aware of all your objections and essentially dismisses them as ill informed and too much focused on finding conspiracy where there is none. Believe me, any scientist who could poke a legitimate hole in AGW theory would get all the press and funding they'd ever need from a multitude of sources and organizations. The simple fact is there is almost no real science to back up right wing political ideology on climate change. There is still work to be done but to date virtually none of the serious work by serious scientists is backing your position. Therefore you spend your time looking for conspiracies and making inane comments like "it's settled". Sad.

Geeze man...I thought you were sharper than that...!
You do realize when you cite a number of (so called) scientists...that regardless of their position on what used to be an argument...that they all get the data from the same place (NASA/NOAA)...I'm not sure how many privately funded weather satellites there are up there...LoL...!

Frauds the size of AGW take a while to get through the most dense deniers (there is still people that think the world is flat)...heck I bet there are Bernie Maddoff investors that still think they are going to get their money back...same mindset as those that can't read the writing on the walls...!

 

[IslandTractor]

Geeze man...I thought you were sharper than that...!
You do realize when you cite a number of (so called) scientists...that regardless of their position on what used to be an argument...that they all get the data from the same place (NASA/NOAA)...I'm not sure how many privately funded weather satellites there are up there...LoL...!

Frauds the size of AGW take a while to get through the most dense deniers (there is still people that think the world is flat)...heck I bet there are Bernie Maddoff investors that still think they are going to get their money back...same mindset as those that can't read the writing on the walls...!

Do you seriously think the scientific community has not vetted the NOAA data and the various corrections applied to raw data? Do you seriously fail to see the real world correlates of increasing temperatures? By your logic, none of the temperature rises are real and so it follows that climate is stable. Have you been to Glacier Natl Park in recent years? Was the NorthWest Passage open for commercial traffic when you were growing up? Were flowers and trees blooming the same time in the 1960s as they are today?