First Turbo Tractor, Teach Me, Help Select Best Attachments

[olPete]

Agree with all of the above. I usually cruise back home at low revs in reasonably high gear and idle it down for the time it takes to roll a cigarette and gather up all the clothing I've shed before shutting it off.
Wind does spin the turbo if you have the exhaust directly into the wind, have heard the rumbling sound before in a big old MF8260 I used to plough with. So if i had to haul one I'd bear that in mind or plug it with a teddy bear or something
Have come to accept that newer tractors have much less turbo music than old. My 92 SAME sounds like an air raid siren under load and I love it but the newer gear that I drive is much less so.
I usually change out the oil well before it's due but my old love has 7840 hours on the meter now and oil's cheaper than parts. Dont know if bird's nests are an issue over there but plenty burn out here each spring from "operators" failing to open it up and have a mother's look around the exhaust system for nest material, and turbocharged tractors seem to have more convoluted manifolds than n/a engines or older tractors do. Man down the road had been working all morning, came home for less than an hour, and the birds had nearly completed a nest in that time.
Best of luck
Pete

 

[brown40]

Sorry--you had asked about attachments and I was thinking all tractor.
Are you loading your tires? You still need a counterweight.
You'll need a counterweight for the 3pt hitch to be able to use your loader effectively and relieve stress from the front axle. I use a weighted box blade (around 800# on a 2900# machine) and sometimes wish I had more--my tires are not loaded. It's the heaviest, shortest, most compact implement I own.
One more time: you'll need a counterweight to keep your COG low and centered behind your front tires--behind even with the heaviest payload your bucket can take is lifted. Everything wears, but the rear axle is usually rated for 3-5 times the load of the front. Rear tires do the work, and you have to configure your ballast to make sure it stays that way.
I think the most common attachments discussed are bush hog, rear blade, rototiller, box blade, and backhoe, but what you'll need is based on what you do. I look at all the brands and evaluate the construction, build quality, product line history and especially the weight. If its not shaft driven--the weight is the work potential.
My backhoe and box blade are the usual suspects on my 3 pt, but the tiller, bush hog, chipper and logging winch all somewhat work for ballast if they happen to be there.
In truth its hard to beat the counterweight that a big bush hog hanging off the back provides for loader work, but its a huge liability back there if its not the implement in use and you have any obstructions or high spots around, because it makes your footprint huge, and your affected area as far behind as it is ahead.

 

[CADplans]

Well,, for the first time since I have owned the JD 4105, I believe I put the turbo to the test.

I purchased a Woods RD72 mower,

I hooked it up, and went out and mowed, and mowed, and mowed.

The 4105 has a max rated speed of 13 MPH,, I was easily mowing at 9+ MPH.
At times, I did mow at 13 MPH,, the cut was not quite perfect.
The engine never labored, no matter how tall the grass was,
I could mow as fast as I was comfortable on the tractor.

But,, and this is a BIG BUT,,,, I thought I had destroyed the fuel gauge!!

In just a couple hours of mowing,, the fuel gauge pointed at empty,,,

Surely I had broken the gauge,,
I had run the tractor all summer,, mostly towing trailers, or the 7 foot scraper blade.
At most, I would burn a tank of fuel in a month of use.

The afternoon of mowing had indeed used an entire tank of fuel.
The turbo must be able to radically increase fuel consumption,,,

 

[LD1]

Not sure what the 4105s HP is, but I went from a non-turbo 29pto HP gear tractor (L3409 bota) to a 42 PTO Hours turbo HST (mx5100)....

Night and day difference on fuel consumption.

I could mow all day long with the L3400. Seldom did I need an extra fuel can with me when I had a days worth of work lined up. 1gal per hour was about the norm.

Just mowed 5 acres of some thick nasty stuff, and quite hilly with alot of trees to go around. 2.5 hours. Was on full when starting and flirting with E when done.

Had a 6 gal can with me. Took it all and looks like room for 2-3 more gallons. So about 3-gallon per hour.

Some of my lighter jobs I can get that down around 2-2.5 gal/hr. But with an 8' cutter, even in light stuff I try to mow at a pace that actually uses the HP. (Fast)

 

[Deere Dude]

It sounds fishy that a couple hours of mowing with a finish mower would empty the gas tank. I have a turboed JD 3720 and sounds basically like yours and can run all day mowing and just use maybe 5 gallons using a 84"RFM.

 

[LD1]

All depends on how hard you work it.

HP takes fuel. Piddling around with my blade, rake, moving mulch or dirt with the loader....yea, sips fuel.

Running a PTO implement at Max power = max fuel consumption.

How big is the tank on the 4105?

How many gallons did you actually burn in that 2 hrs

 

[CADplans]

Running a PTO implement at Max power = max fuel consumption.

How big is the tank on the 4105?

How many gallons did you actually burn in that 2 hrs

The fuel tank is rated as 10.5 gallons,,
I never fill it, or run it empty.
I know the fuel gauge is on "E" when there is 2 gallons left.
(I completely emptied the fuel tank when I got it, I thought there was contaminated fuel in the tank)

My guess is that I actually burned over 6 gallons of fuel in about 3 hours.
That is by far the highest rate of consumption the tractor has had since I owned it.

Blade work, etc, uses less than 1/2 gallon per hour.

 

[LD1]

So about 2 gallon per hour under hard use. Seems about right for a 41hp machine. Wish mine were that low when giving the PTO a workout.

HP cost money (fuel). Gotta pay to play.

I think most here don't use anywhere near rated power for any measurable about of time.

 

[CADplans]

HP cost money (fuel). Gotta pay to play.

I think most here don't use anywhere near rated power for any measurable about of time.

Today, I ran the same machine, same mower,, but, the grass was shorter, and thinner,,
The 4105 did not burn as much fuel.

 

[Wagtail]

Just as a side note CADplans... I've found that there is a rpm 'sweet spot' for doing all of my non-pto work. It's a titch above the 2000 mark.

Low or High, a smidge above 2000 revs and I can (and have) work all day, and in 4WD. Fuel economy is great at that mark... an 8 hour day of field fetching and loading 4x5 round bales = 20 litres of fuel to top-up for the next day.