Carry permit. Would traffic stop make police be more cautious? yea or nay?

[Soundguy]

I saw that video and it was about what I expect of the dirtbag cops I have come in contact with. That cop that grabbed the nurse (and the others standing and watching) should have been out of a job.

I never heard what happened in the end.

Thats a good example of 'Blue shield/wall' in action. Cops letting other cops be bad cops.. thus ALL present are bad cops.

 

[Soundguy]

It's ok.... I'm not going to convince you to stop being paranoid, and "anti-authority" ... .

So.. calling out a bad cop for being a bad cop is anti authority, and paranoid?

Is calling out a thief some sort of 'profiling for people that don't pay' ??

your logic is amazing!

 

[Gator6x4]

The last I checked, a M3A1 was going for over $15,000. You got one on your backhoe, I wouldn't worry about it as you could probably buy your way out of any trouble

Most people probably don’t know what a M3A1 is. :laughing:

A new reproduction model is available at a decent price if someone wants to spend a little money. Valkyerie Arms M3A1 Page

 

[Sigarms]

Most people probably don’t know what a M3A1 is. :laughing:

I'm old In complete honesty, that's what I always think of when I hear grease gun.

Always wanted one when I was a kid, now I'd just take a H&K:laughing:

 

[TSO]

So.. calling out a bad cop for being a bad cop is anti authority, and paranoid?

Is calling out a thief some sort of 'profiling for people that don't pay' ??

your logic is amazing!

No... Clearly you haven't paid attention. It's no secret that there are a handful (albeit a very very small percentage overall) of bad officers, or bad lawyers, or bad accountants, or bad... Whatever.

And in those circumstances, its appropriate to hold them accountable to the full extent. Absolutely. However, to paint the rest with a broad brush, or have the attitude of "i don't trust the Police" is ridiculous, and plays right into liberal dogma that highlights and over sensationalizes random, isolated incidents. We all know how media plays to ratings. So instead of highlighting the thousand of daily encounters across the country, where good, honest cops (the vast majority) are doing their jobs, and doing them well... They showcase and over emphasize the negative. In turn, this leads some (the uninformed, the blind, the gullible) to believe that the events are widespread, Instead of realizing the fact that these isolated events are plucked and showcased for full ratings effect.

I still offer out the challenge to anyone who thinks they can do a better job at being an officer (or fireman, or Jimmy John's delivery driver)... Go sign up and do the job.

But seriously, to go around claiming that you should not trust the Police, and that they are actively looking to violate your rights... is ridiculous propaganda.

 

[Sigarms]

But seriously, to go around claiming that you should not trust the Police, and that they are actively looking to violate your rights... is ridiculous propaganda.

You really do make assumptions don't you?

Not every police officer is activily looking to violate your rights (apologies, can you point out where that was said in this thread?), however, again, the point that you can't seem to comprehend is that you are better off being safe rather than sorry as a citizen.

The sad reality is most Americans really don't understand their rights afforded to them and some police DO take advantage of that. If you don't know the cop personally, there is absolutely no reason to give them more information than they need to know. Ironically enough, that previous sentence was told to me BY A COP!:laughing: (one reason why perhaps I consider him a friend).

 

[TSO]

The reality is any LEO agency works for the government in some form or fashion. The work performed by the LEO agency is to enforce those laws set forth by the government.

People have this misconception that the police are required to protect them, which is simply NOT true.

I tell my boys to respect the law, but be fearful of it as well. Also try to instill in them that if they need help to protect themselves, they need to be able to do it for themselves, and never to rely on others, particularly the police.

You really do make assumptions don't you?

Not every police officer is activily looking to violate your rights (apologies, can you point out where that was said in this thread?), however, again, the point that you can't seem to comprehend is that you are better off being safe rather than sorry as a citizen.

The sad reality is most Americans really don't understand their rights afforded to them and some police DO take advantage of that. If you don't know the cop personally, there is absolutely no reason to give them more information...

Not making assumptions... Your outlook, and what you teach your kids, is to not trust authority, especially Police.

You say that the Police don't have your best interest in mind while they're investigating you.

I now realize that your statements make much more sense if you have actually broken the law and/or have something to hide. Otherwise, If you're a law abiding citizen without a guilty mind, there is zero reason to fear or distrust the Police.

Unless of course you've bought into liberal media hype...

 

[Sigarms]

Not making assumptions... Your outlook, and what you teach your kids, is to not trust authority, especially Police.

You say that the Police don't have your best interest in mind while they're investigating you.

I now realize that your statements make much more sense if you have actually broken the law and/or have something to hide. Otherwise, If you're a law abiding citizen without a guilty mind, there is zero reason to fear or distrust the Police.

Unless of course you've bought into liberal media hype...

Hmmm, wonder why that man I personally know had to spend at least 500k in legal defense fees to show that the state of North Carolina actually fabricated evidence agasint him by their (state) employees in court? You know how many guys in NC alone have been freed because it has been shown that the police fabricate evidence agasint them years later? Funny enough, most of those guys didn't have money for a good defense attorney.

Do you sincerely believe all LEO agencies only have "truth and justice" at all costs on their agenda?

I'm more than respectful to any LEO I come across no matter what the situation.

I'm sorry, I missed it, exactly what is the issue as long as your respectful to any LEO you come across?

 

[Buggs67]

My 2 cents:

I never tell the officer I have a permit or I am armed.(not that I get stopped much) I retired from the job and am able to have a RPO permit. I show them my retired badge. The RPO is good nationwide and in states without carry permits I don't trust that the officer would know what to do properly. Some states require that you inform the officer in which case you should definitely should as a failure to advise might be a charge in of itself.

If an officer is aware from his computer that your grandson has a CCW permit it would inform him that he has been investigated and found to be crime-free. That's always a good thing.

The most important aspect of any traffic stop or police interaction is attitude and behavior. Pull as far off the road as possible so he doesn't have to hang out in traffic. Stay in the car, roll down the window, turn off the music, hang up the cell phone. Turn on the inside light at night. If you have tinted windows roll them all down. Keep your hands in sight and advise your passengers to do the same and have your passengers shut up unless addressed. Listen and obey their instructions. And be polite. Ask if you are unsure. Advise the officer before ANY action. And if it's possible, ask for consideration, maybe a warning. But NEVER say "What did I do wrong?".

I could write a book on it but it's already been done.

 

[ovrszd]

I've noticed thru the last 100 posts or so the LEOs have chosen to step away. You think that's because they are "bad" LEOs or because they are familiar with the negativism being displayed?

I "Back the Blue".