EMP Prep, What would you do if you had 45 minutes to prepare?

[Sigarms]

No one is kicking myself more than myself for breaking my word.

 

[ovrszd]

Your true colors shine Richard Thank you for the derogatory comment.

I wasn't being derogatory at all. You are a self professed dog person. I simply put it in terms I thought you might have witnessed at some time. Maybe not.

The theory of sharing only brings the strong down to the weakest's level. And in the end everyone becomes that litter of pups fighting for that last drop of tit milk.

Sorry you misunderstood my point.

 

[buickanddeere]

Inside a steel roof and wall shed . Small items wrap in aluminum foil. As previously stated you are in danger of hungry desperate people from 3 days walk in any direction. Don知t advertise that you have food or power.

 

[ovrszd]

Inside a steel roof and wall shed . Small items wrap in aluminum foil. As previously stated you are in danger of hungry desperate people from 3 days walk in any direction. Don知t advertise that you have food or power.

Would be the Wild West Days for sure.

 

[flyerdan]

For those who haven't seen it, I'd advise them to avail themselves to watch The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street for a delightfully disturbing treatise on human behaviour at its atavistic worst when the chips are down.
If you don't have a hardsite to protect your supplies, all you've done is create a clearing house for the foraging hordes who'll come looking once their gibs-me-dat cards quit working.

 

[/pine]

Would be the Wild West Days for sure.

Not for long...under M.L. the constitution is suspended...guns would be confiscated...there would be zero tolerance by the military...

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Read up on living under marshal law...

Can't look it up if you don't know how to spell it.

 

[Deere Dude]

I would be history as soon as the doughnuts were gone.

 

[/pine]

Can't look it up if you don't know how to spell it.

my bad...how petty...

While you have the encyclopedia out...look up the word "Malapropism"...!

 

[Larry Caldwell]

my bad...how petty...

So you declare martial law. How would anyone know? This is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. Call the marshal.

 

[3930dave]

As far as EMP goes. I don't know enough about it. Would grounding circuits making a low resistance be better than leaving them open?

Any semiconductor junction outside a well designed shielded room (Faraday cage) will likely be blown. Grounding matters, but only accomplishes much if attached to said shielded room.

To 90s question - not much, as anything meaningful (obtain significant water, food, mechanical only equipment, tube operated electronics.....) would typically take much longer. I'd fill up as many vessels as I had with water, but that's probably it. (Yes, I realize civilians won't get the headsup in time...)

The EMP area would end up circa 1880, less telegraphs.

90 does have a point about prep though (often not easy to discuss publicly, w/o being labeled a wingnut though.....), as most of us take our modcons for granted. Another Carrington event will happen; it's just a matter of when.

Rgds, D.

 

[Sigarms]

Sorry Sig. Can't believe you believe that.

I do.

Know my neighbor pretty well who our road is named after, as well as his sons and grandkids (all relatively successful in their own right). Also know most everyone who lives on the road that doesn't have the same last name as well.

The reality is I coudn't move all my ammo in my truck if I wanted to, added, the best offense if you don't want losses is a good defense. Makes more sense for everyone to stick together and stay put. Build a good defense, and work on water a water supply.

One could argue even if you have the electronics background, all one needs to do is kill you for ALL of the snicker bar.

Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt there will be people only looking out for themselves.

God gave us a brain, lets hope we use it.

 

[sandman2234]

Alas Babylon?

David from jax

 

[ovrszd]

Not for long...under M.L. the constitution is suspended...guns would be confiscated...there would be zero tolerance by the military...

Without using Weapons of Mass Destruction, i.e., Artillery, Aerial bombing, Tanks, Bradley Fighting Vehicles, Apache Helicopters, Armed Drones, etc., etc., the military would be unable to disarm the citizens of this country. So then you have military personnel going AWOL by the thousands. In the end Anarchy would win......

 

[ovrszd]

No one is kicking myself more than myself for breaking my word.

Your true colors shine Sigarms

 

[/pine]

Without using Weapons of Mass Destruction, i.e., Artillery, Aerial bombing, Tanks, Bradley Fighting Vehicles, Apache Helicopters, Armed Drones, etc., etc., the military would be unable to disarm the citizens of this country. So then you have military personnel going AWOL by the thousands. In the end Anarchy would win......

Like I said...there would be zero tolerance...and just an opinion but I would think there would be masses wanting to enlist in the military rather than leaving...

 

[Steppenwolfe]

I do.

Know my neighbor pretty well who our road is named after, as well as his sons and grandkids (all relatively successful in their own right). Also know most everyone who lives on the road that doesn't have the same last name as well.

The reality is I coudn't move all my ammo in my truck if I wanted to, added, the best offense if you don't want losses is a good defense. Makes more sense for everyone to stick together and stay put. Build a good defense, and work on water a water supply.

One could argue even if you have the electronics background, all one needs to do is kill you for ALL of the snicker bar.

Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt there will be people only looking out for themselves.

God gave us a brain, lets hope we use it.

My old, WW2 Ranger mentor once told me, " You never know what is cooking in someone else's pot "... Don't be surprised, in a true calamity, your neighbors aren't measuring you up for their pot.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Any semiconductor junction outside a well designed shielded room (Faraday cage) will likely be blown. Grounding matters, but only accomplishes much if attached to said shielded room.

To 90s question - not much, as anything meaningful (obtain significant water, food, mechanical only equipment, tube operated electronics.....) would typically take much longer. I'd fill up as many vessels as I had with water, but that's probably it. (Yes, I realize civilians won't get the headsup in time...)

The EMP area would end up circa 1880, less telegraphs.

90 does have a point about prep though (often not easy to discuss publicly, w/o being labeled a wingnut though.....), as most of us take our modcons for granted. Another Carrington event will happen; it's just a matter of when.

Rgds, D.

Semiconductor junctions are far too small to develop a damaging voltage. The real threat would be from wildfires cause by arcing and falling power transmission lines, wire fences, or anything else long enough to collect inductive voltage. For EMP, the bigger the worse. Car computers might even be unaffected, depending on their orientation.

 

[oosik]

Well - if it were winter, like now, I have dry food for about four months. Water supply is forever. Firewood forever. After six months - I would simply die. Food would run out - since its winter, I can not grow any.....................

What difference does it make. The electric grid certainly will not be back up in six months or a year and without food we are gone.........

 

[Industrial Toys]

How long is a typical EMP event? Long enough to start fires? I would have thought milliseconds. Like I said, I don't know.

My hope is that I never live to see such a break down. If I do, I would consider myself lucky, if killed quite soon into the scenario for the Snickers Bar.

I heard stories about Katrina and cops stealing generators and booze, holding up in hotels basically looking after themselves, keeping others away from their little oasis. I think this is quite telling of human nature.