HST Filter

[kenmac]

Last week I was at the local dealership visiting some friends that work there. There was a Buick SUV of some model in one bay with the engine removed and partially torn apart. I asked my friend what happened to it since it appeared very new. He said cam chains are bad with 50K miles on it. I said how can that be? He said it's common on GM vehicles with owners that use the oil monitor to determine changes. Another mechanic said he has seen them with 20K miles on an oil change before the monitor says it needs changed.

No flame, just perked my response when you mentioned oil change monitors.

Yet many people think the OLM is the what the manufacture recommends for oil changes. LOL

OLM has no idea of the condition of the oil . it doesn't test for acids , soot, etc in the oil, yet you have people swear by an OLM.

I use better oil and filters than I can purchase from the dealer, and it shows when I get my reports back from Oil Analyzers

 

[ovrszd]

Yet many people think the OLM is the what the manufacture recommends for oil changes. LOL

OLM has no idea of the condition of the oil . it doesn't test for acids , soot, etc in the oil, yet you have people swear by an OLM.

I use better oil and filters than I can purchase from the dealer, and it shows when I get my reports back from Oil Analyzers

I think the #1 thing I can do to extend engine life is maintain good lubrication.

 

[rScotty]

You are right, There are probably differences in some kubota branded filters. Without testing every filter that comes off the line, one will never now.

Typical oil/filter thread. Many claims, few facts.

When you have a huge amount of data about something and are still not able to come up with any solid facts, then one of your conclusions must necessarily be that it makes very little difference. And in that case, opinions are all that remain.
rScotty

 

[kenmac]

I think the #1 thing I can do to extend engine life is maintain good lubrication.

When I was a teen, I worked at a service station. They type of place that pumped your gas, checked your oil, aired your tires, cleaned your windshield, etc,.

I use to have an old guy than came in and got his oil changed. He always brought his own oil he bought from the local auto parts store, and always had his filter changed every other oil change.

This old guy was still driving that car when I left

 

[ovrszd]

When I was a teen, I worked at a service station. They type of place that pumped your gas, checked your oil, aired your tires, cleaned your windshield, etc,.

I use to have an old guy than came in and got his oil changed. He always brought his own oil he bought from the local auto parts store, and always had his filter changed every other oil change.

This old guy was still driving that car when I left

I worked in such a station as well. Kept records on a ledger with a pencil. Every sale was recorded. Lots of people came in and bought $1 worth of gas. I still remember recording that sale. It was 3.1 gallons of regular. Pickups and trucks got a .02 cent per gallon discount so you always pumped $1.06. Funny how those things stick with you. I can't tell you within .20 cents a gallon what fuel costs today.

In regards to lubricants, engines of that day and those built today have nothing in common.

 

[kenmac]

In regards to lubricants, engines of that day and those built today have nothing in common.

No they aren't. In today's vehicles, tolerances are much closer and temps run much higher. But, yesteryear was much simpler

 

[ovrszd]

No they aren't. In today's vehicles, tolerances are much closer and temps run much higher. But, yesteryear was much simpler

Simpler, and shorter life span. They ran much dirtier because of those loose tolerances.

Remove the valve cover of a modern engine and an old engine. I've saw old engines so dirty in the crankcase that the return holes cast into the heads to allow the oil to run back down to the pan were clogged and if the engine ran at a high rpm for more than a couple minutes it would starve for oil and start clattering.

 

[kenmac]

Simpler, and shorter life span. They ran much dirtier because of those loose tolerances.

Remove the valve cover of a modern engine and an old engine. I've saw old engines so dirty in the crankcase that the return holes cast into the heads to allow the oil to run back down to the pan were clogged and if the engine ran at a high rpm for more than a couple minutes it would starve for oil and start clattering.

I've seen those same oil drain holes stopped up as well. Most people claimed using Quaker state oil caused this. I was always under the impression not changing oil regularly caused the oil /dirt to gunk up the head drain holes.
I think,One reason you don't see those holes stopped up today, is due to most people performing regular maintenance on their vehicles better than they once did

 

[David_Kb7uns]

The manufacture of kubota filters can put any label on the filters. Unless kubota has an engineer on site and test every filter that comes off the line, One will never know if every filter is the same.

I'll continue to use better oil, parts, and filters as good as,or better than I can buy at the dealer.

I'll let ya know when My kubota comes apart from using a filter by the same company that makes the kubota filters


I guess I really screwed up buying my UTD fluid (that meets Kubots specs.) from tractor supply

Still does not fix that WIX/NAPA spec the incorrect fuel filter for three of my Kubota tractors makes you wonder about the rest of the crossovers in their parts catalog.

None of the UTD fluids meet the Super UDT spec required for the Kubota HST and GST units.

You still have not explained how a filter coming from the same factory that makes some Kubota filters might be better quality as the Kubota ones when everyone is not inspected either by an engineer.

David

 

[kenmac]

Still does not fix that WIX/NAPA spec the incorrect fuel filter for three of my Kubota tractors makes you wonder about the rest of the crossovers in their parts catalog.

None of the UTD fluids meet the Super UDT spec required for the Kubota HST and GST units.

You still have not explained how a filter coming from the same factory that makes some Kubota filters might be better quality as the Kubota ones when everyone is not inspected either by an engineer.

David

Can you provide any evidence that other UTD fluid of a different manufacture doesn't meet kubota specs ?


''And in case you have not noticed Kubota has been spending a lot of money on smart label technology to keep counterfeits out of the supply chain and that means something also that if they do put importance in their quality checks why put expensive labels with seals on the packages?''

The above statement is no proof that kubota has an engineer on site at the Baldwin filter plant to ensure every filter off the line is of the same quality.

You keep mentioning wix filters. Wix has nothing to do with Baldwin filters. Baldwin makes the kubota filter. Not wix
Can you provide proof Baldwin filters are inferior to the kubota filters they make ?

I happened to cut open both filters today.
I have concluded that the filter media in the Baldwin filter is superior to the same filter branded Kubota