Stanadyne ??? Afters Years of Use Has Let Me Down

[sixdogs]

Goggle Arlen Spicer diesel additive test.Good read.

Can do. Thank you.

 

[CADplans]

My neighbor brought a Satoh diesel tractor from his previous home in upper New York state.
He told me how an old farmer showed him that mixing kerosene with the diesel would eliminate gelling,,,

I did not own a diesel at that time, so,, I failed to learn the ratio,,
so,, could mixing kerosene with the diesel fuel be the simple answer??

A diesel can run on kerosene, so, I doubt that there is a wrong ratio,,
kerosene is just more expensive than diesel,,,
Hmmmmmm,,,,,,, :thumbsup:

 

[aczlan]

Just went to their site and it's $20 to ship one $15 quart size bottle and $25 for a $50 1 gallon jug. No dealers close by so my choice is to buy a quart of PS for about $7 which I can get anywhere around me or $35 for a quart / $70 for a gallon of Opti-Lube. If they would get some dealers close by I would most likely use it.

Look on Amazon, $55 for a gallon shipped if you have Prime:
Amazon.com: Opti-Lube Winter Formula Diesel Fuel Additive: 1 Gallon without Accessories Treats up to 512 Gallons: Automotive

Aaron Z

 

[aczlan]

My neighbor brought a Satoh diesel tractor from his previous home in upper New York state.
He told me how an old farmer showed him that mixing kerosene with the diesel would eliminate gelling,,,

I did not own a diesel at that time, so,, I failed to learn the ratio,,
so,, could mixing kerosene with the diesel fuel be the simple answer??

A diesel can run on kerosene, so, I doubt that there is a wrong ratio,,
kerosene is just more expensive than diesel,,,
Hmmmmmm,,,,,,,

Too much kerosene can cause problems with the injection pump as the fuel may not provide enough lubrication to prevent pump damage.

Aaron Z

 

[arrow]

I have always used Stanadyne Performance Formula year round as a fuel additive and anti-gel. I have also bought my fuel at the same truck stop for over 15 years and trust thier fuel. Well today I plugged the filter - never happened before. It was cold, minus 5 F and the tractor soaked at minus 22 all night. In trying to figure what happened I notice that the Stanadyne spec states that the plugged filter temp is reduced by 25* F. I never realized that was all. So I guess all these years I have been unknowingly relying on the fuel blender to help winterize the fuel.

Anyway the question - Stanadyne says use a 500:1 ratio, temperature independent. My question is, if I use a lower ratio will I get a larger temperature reduction ?? I ask because I see Power Service instructs you to double the additive below 0 degrees F. However PS does not publish (that I can find ) how much temperature reduction you get by using it. That would be good to know too. Thanks

gg

Never forgot the time I reached for a bottle of this stuff stored in the barn. About 6* at the time. The Stanadyne had gelled in the bottle all by itself.

 

[Gordon Gould]

Never forgot the time I reached for a bottle of this stuff stored in the barn. About 6* at the time. The Stanadyne had gelled in the bottle all by itself.

Hmmmmmmmm......... Now that is disconcerting me thinks. No wonder it says to store above 32* :laughing:

gg

 

[Phillip w]

Too much kerosene can cause problems with the injection pump as the fuel may not provide enough lubrication to prevent pump damage.

Aaron Z

When I drove a truck, we used to put about 5 gallons of kerosene in each tank. So that equals about 5 gallons kerosene per 100 gallons of fuel. A little jet fuel (jp5) would do the trick, but you can't pick that up at you friendly neighborhood service station.

Here is a graph from Howes on cold filter plug point. It shows it gets you to -12 F with an 18 degree improvement over untreated fuel. Stanadyne claims basically the same with a 20 to 25 degree improvement. I don't know about Power Service. It seems to me that when you run at very cold temps you are relying on the fuel supplier to produce a blend with a lower cold filter plug point because the additives you buy do not lower the cold temps enough by themselves. It seems if you think the additive is all it takes then you are kidding yourself ????????????

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In my particular case I think this is what happened. I keep four 5 gal containers of fuel. When they are empty I go into town and fill them all. I checked my fuel slips. The fuel I put in on Christmas eve was actually purchased on Nov 30. I took a week to hunt and was using my smaller tractor more so my fuel usage was down some. Maybe the Nov 30 fuel was not blended for -25*F back then. I will be more careful now.

Always something new to learn - I never had to look at this before.

gg

 

[Doofy]

The old truckers in Alaska in the late 60s-early 70s always threw in a couple quarts of ATF in their fuel tanks for added lubrication. I don't know how that affected the fuel gelling problems.

 

[crazyal]

I'm pretty sure that kerosene has less energy in it than diesel so you are paying more for less. It's refined more hence the extra cost. We use to mix it 50/50 for the real cold nights when I was a kid but it's just as easy to use an additive.

I don't have Prime because FedEx doesn't like to deliver to my house (UPS is fine) and FedEx will not deliver to a different address if they won't deliver to your house. The closest place they will bring it is about an hour and a half from here. Even though there's a FedEx depot about 40 minutes away they will not allow anyone to pick up a package there.

 

[Doofy]

I'm pretty sure that kerosene has less energy in it than diesel so you are paying more for less. It's refined more hence the extra cost. We use to mix it 50/50 for the real cold nights when I was a kid but it's just as easy to use an additive.

I don't have Prime because FedEx doesn't like to deliver to my house (UPS is fine) and FedEx will not deliver to a different address if they won't deliver to your house. The closest place they will bring it is about an hour and a half from here. Even though there's a FedEx depot about 40 minutes away they will not allow anyone to pick up a package there.

I get FedEx and UPS 5 days a week and I live 166 miles from Anchorage. Amazon Prime was great for a couple of years, but now...not so much. There seem to be more items they will not ship than ones they will.