help pick next tractor

[spitter]

I have narrowed my choices down to 2 tractors that I can afford. My tractor I am upgrading from is a tc 29d . I really like The Tc 29d But it's just too small .I do a lot of loader work with the forks on . Mostly doing rock landscape work .The framer next door gives me all the large rocks I want but some of them I wind up dragging and pushing. So to get to my choices. Tc45d or a dk45 se. I wan't a tractor that has hydro side by side peddles. Nothing with computers or pollution control My tractor sleeps outside. My problem comes from the Kioti has a better lifting capacity.But I think the NH has better build quality. Also I realy like the sloped loader design on the NH. The other thing is that the Nh was built from 98 to 2009 there are a sh t load of them out there . When I look for the kioti they are far and few in between. I have seen videos of the Kioti picking up 2500 lbs . pretty impressive . I know the TC payload is 1600 Lbs. but is that to full hight? Can the DK be really 1000 LBS. stronger or is it more like 500LBS. If any one has made a similar upgrade let me know what u think .Thanks.:drink:

 

[Buppies]

You cannot go wrong with New Holland products in my opinion. Having never owned a Kioti cannot comment only what I read and that is almost always good. At present we own case track skid loader New Holland skid loader New Holland back hoe tractor is Kubota but that is personal use only and deal feel thru on Kioti. Good luck in your search

 

[bspeedy]

Not sure if it would work for you, but for pure lifting power, it's hard to beat a tracked skid steer.

 

[mljenkins]

I had a larger New Holland (workmaster 55) and it was a great tractor and easy to work no, no frills (sat outside without cover a lot of the time). I can’t speak to kioti but you’ll likely be able to get parts as they are fairly common I thought. You may just need to get a service manual and order online. I do think the hood design on the NH tractors helps visibility as they claim, as my new Kubota l6060 I have a harder time seeing out in front. Granted my last tractor sat higher.

Nonetheless, if you can sit in both and drop the loader bucket to the ground and see how much of the bucket you can see (I assume they won’t have forks on at the time) it would be very helpful to your decision. If you are working alone a lot, I would prioritize visibility over capacity unless the capacity is proven extremely significant.

Don’t get hung up on two pedals as some of the tredle designs have an offset essentially to mimic a second pedal. That’s why I added Kubota to my comparison list after realizing this and test driving it and realizing I could live with it. Granted without that offset just back and forth I would have strongly considered another choice, just because I was used to two pedals in the past (my first tractor was a hst with two pedals).

Ps: you may already know all this, but it was something new to me when purchasing... with the lift capacity, some manufactures have the capacity at the lift pins on the loader while others have it so many (maybe 500?) mm forward which is more realistic and of course less. Some are at a certain height and some are at full height. So be careful when comparing those numbers. It was rather difficult to compare lift capacity when I was purchasing because of these differences. I found a common measurement among all the ones I wanted to compare and compared that number, for example if I could only find at the lift pin capacity on every single one I just compared that number.

Good luck.

 

[Thomas]

NH been around for time,but how do you compare service departments?

 

[audsp98]

I have narrowed my choices down to 2 tractors that I can afford. My tractor I am upgrading from is a tc 29d . I really like The Tc 29d But it's just too small .I do a lot of loader work with the forks on . Mostly doing rock landscape work .The framer next door gives me all the large rocks I want but some of them I wind up dragging and pushing. So to get to my choices. Tc45d or a dk45 se. I wan't a tractor that has hydro side by side peddles. Nothing with computers or pollution control My tractor sleeps outside. My problem comes from the Kioti has a better lifting capacity.But I think the NH has better build quality. Also I realy like the sloped loader design on the NH. The other thing is that the Nh was built from 98 to 2009 there are a sh t load of them out there . When I look for the kioti they are far and few in between. I have seen videos of the Kioti picking up 2500 lbs . pretty impressive . I know the TC payload is 1600 Lbs. but is that to full hight? Can the DK be really 1000 LBS. stronger or is it more like 500LBS. If any one has made a similar upgrade let me know what u think .Thanks.:drink:

If you're really interested in NH you'll also want to take a look at LS. For the most part, they make the NH tractors and are better equipped with better prices.

 

[gersus]

I second the recommendation to look at LS. They make the smaller NH's and are thousands cheaper.

 

[spitter]

Thanks for all replies and help. grsus and audsp looked at NH and LS only newer one's have hydro. I don't like cvt too much computers and wires . I would by a boomer 50 or a Boomer 9n in a heart beat if it had a hydro . My dream tractor is a TC55 d with a hydro. MLjenkins looked at l6060 and realy liked new peddle design. At this time I would have to hit the pick 6 to afford one of those.I curse my TC 29 with the big banna peddle every time I'm on it. The lifting capacity is really confusing will the DK only lift 500LBS. a foot higher than the TC ? Head to head would be really nice. bspeddy I hate skidsteers!!! WE have one at work that I can bring home any time.I had it home for 3 years a while back I used to let my 8 year old son drive it he was so much better than me.I think it's a cloustrofobic thing.I can drive every other piece of equipment we have except for that. I would like too Keep the price in the teens But I just might jus wait a while and and trie to save up for a JD 110 TLB . Thanks again.:drink:

 

[Qapla]

If you are considering the JD110 (must be used since they no longer make them) you might want to also look at the Kubota L39 thru the M59 (used, of course) in the price range you mentioned.

 

[2ndhalf]

Not certain of why you think you can only afford those two models but Mahindra makes a notoriously good lifting tractor and many seem to be happy with them.