Medical Insurance for those that Retire before age 65?

   / Medical Insurance for those that Retire before age 65? #31  
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A lot of my friends are retired police officers and they get as much as 96% of wages/benefits after 30 years so staying on the job is really working for nothing...
They are probably PAYING to work, add up all the costs associated with the job - commuting, higher taxes on higher income, any "extra" clothing. Do they pay into the retirement fund?
 
   / Medical Insurance for those that Retire before age 65? #32  
Not retired yet, but I switch to a high deductible plan a few years ago. It is allowing me to save pre-tax a significant amount of money that will be used for healthcare cost in the future. I understand that my healthcare cost when I eventually retire early will be a big barrier. By saving with pre-tax for that, I'm getting ahead.
You do realize that the money going into your Medical Savings Account is YOUR money and all you get is the tax savings? I think the trend will be in that direction but people need to remember that it is not "free money". Our retiree plan went to high deductible last year and let us contribute to a HSA. Part of the program is that you have to take a greater role in your healthcare because you are playing with your own money now. Question every medication your doctor wants you on and question every blood test he/she wants. They are largely still operating under the "old way" where everything was covered...you are not. I learned the hard way last year. A routine physical cost me $2,100 (mostly lab work) which with my new $3,000 deductible came from me. Just got the bill for this year's and have yet to open it but I did push back on what was being done.
 
   / Medical Insurance for those that Retire before age 65?
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#33  
They are probably PAYING to work, add up all the costs associated with the job - commuting, higher taxes on higher income, any "extra" clothing. Do they pay into the retirement fund?

Not a penny until the new hires starting recently... 100% city funded.

The old plan was even better but the last person on it retired now... he came in just before it was frozen... the old plan pays retires based on current pay for the rank held... so there are officers that retired 30 years ago getting nearly 3 times the pay when they retired... because that 40k Sargent is now a 120k base Sargent.

The lifetime medical is pretty amazing because it is good coverage.... most retire at 52-55 and then go do something else because they want to... my floor covering contractor is one... he bought a business because he had 3 sons and wanted to leave them something...
 
   / Medical Insurance for those that Retire before age 65?
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#34  
You do realize that the money going into your Medical Savings Account is YOUR money and all you get is the tax savings? I think the trend will be in that direction but people need to remember that it is not "free money". Our retiree plan went to high deductible last year and let us contribute to a HSA. Part of the program is that you have to take a greater role in your healthcare because you are playing with your own money now. Question every medication your doctor wants you on and question every blood test he/she wants. They are largely still operating under the "old way" where everything was covered...you are not. I learned the hard way last year. A routine physical cost me $2,100 (mostly lab work) which with my new $3,000 deductible came from me. Just got the bill for this year's and have yet to open it but I did push back on what was being done.

With this being January... I see every day the shock and pale faces of patients having to start from zero which means it is coming out of their pocket... the fees for the surgeon, facility and anesthesia can be a overwhelming starting with fresh deductible balance.

Lab tests, exams, diagnostic procedures are all over the map...

Thanksgiving to New Years was traditionally a slow time for elective procedures... not anymore as those having met deductibles are pushing to get in under the wire...

I've been fortunate to have never needed insurance so it would be just my luck to be without and then need it... growing up we didn't have any and I know it was a concern for my parents...
 
   / Medical Insurance for those that Retire before age 65? #35  
With this being January... I see every day the shock and pale faces of patients having to start from zero which means it is coming out of their pocket... the fees for the surgeon, facility and anesthesia can be a overwhelming starting with fresh deductible balance.

Lab tests, exams, diagnostic procedures are all over the map...

Thanksgiving to New Years was traditionally a slow time for elective procedures... not anymore as those having met deductibles are pushing to get in under the wire...

I've been fortunate to have never needed insurance so it would be just my luck to be without and then need it... growing up we didn't have any and I know it was a concern for my parents...
Growing up you didn't need it because nobody else had it either. Then it became an employment "perk" and with time everybody had it. During that time clinics and hospitals got bigger and bigger, the number of tests increased and the cost of healthcare skyrocketed. Now the trend for health insurance coverage is downward yet the costs continue to increase. Kinda wish they hadn't monkeyed with it to begin with.
 
   / Medical Insurance for those that Retire before age 65? #36  
Im on high deductible plan. Already met my family deductible this yr. Yes, i had to pay thousands out of pocket, but i saved that in premium reduction from the other plans. I calculated it will save me money.

As for retiring before 65, that was / is a big obstacle for me. I just found a way though. As a previous govt employee, i took a deferred retirement, which means no healthcare. Found out i can return to govt, get healthcare, then retire immediately with healthcare. I have just under 3 yrs to hit my retirement age, so need to get another govt job in 3 yrs.
 
   / Medical Insurance for those that Retire before age 65? #37  
Im on high deductible plan. Already met my family deductible this yr. Yes, i had to pay thousands out of pocket, but i saved that in premium reduction from the other plans. I calculated it will save me money.

As for retiring before 65, that was / is a big obstacle for me. I just found a way though. As a previous govt employee, i took a deferred retirement, which means no healthcare. Found out i can return to govt, get healthcare, then retire immediately with healthcare. I have just under 3 yrs to hit my retirement age, so need to get another govt job in 3 yrs.

Lots of luck on that one. I know a number of folks who took the reduced annuity, planning on coming back and completing a regular retirement. Years ago this was encouraged on the basis of almost guaranteed re-employment.

We have a huge DOD presence here in the PNW and they are continuously hiring due to retirements, quits, and new positions established. Even entry level jobs are snapped up by middle east military veterans who are vigorously recruited as a matter of policy. Veterans, especially disabled, are hired into positions they are not even qualified for. Re-employment of annuitants is almost never heard of unless they have unique critical skills. So may of those skills are perishable due to the rapid advancement of technology. I work with lady at the food bank that has been trying to get back on at the commissary, every time she applies they to an open position (ones she worked at before) say sorry we hired a veteran for that position.

I stayed in civil service until I could retire w/o a going deferred even though I was disgusted with the bloated system that promotes to the highest of incompetency. Now it is a major element of my retirement funding.

Also being retired military I do not use the civil service medical plan.

Ron
 
   / Medical Insurance for those that Retire before age 65? #38  
I've got my finacials all figured out. I can retire EXACTLY five years after I die...
 
   / Medical Insurance for those that Retire before age 65?
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#39  
Isn't that often the case...
 
   / Medical Insurance for those that Retire before age 65? #40  
I have been reluctantly following this thread... reluctantly because reading about the US system scares the ever-loving crap out of me!

Being Navy since I'd just turned 17, medical/dental/pharmacy had all been taken care of during my career. Including any time/travel in the US as I was on a "Leave Chit" = was considered 'Allied Military Serviceman'.

Yes, Australia has a public medical AND pharmaceutical system. Not dental (unless it's life threatening). We also have private medical insurance (with private hospitals) that we can take out. It allows those with it to "queue jump" the public system. I joined the non-profit "Navy Health" Health Insurance when I retired at age 55 and currently pay A$180 per month with a A$200 deductible for any procedure. Dental is included as is optical + spectacles.

Just last month I went for my annual eye check-up (Type II diabetes) and the Dr. said I should have cataract surgery on the left eye, then asked if I had public or private medical = private meant that I had the surgery one week later + overnight private hospital stay + consultation the next morning + eye drops; all for A$200.
 

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