Rounded off drain plug

   / Rounded off drain plug #41  
Yes, square head.

View attachment 546567

Here's the current state of the plug. That bar should be removable, bolt on each end. The loader mounts to the frame on the front under the engine and to axle on the rear, just a support bar I suppose. Johnkn, I've tried those extractors as well, although the one I tried was the one that fit in it's current state. Once I remove the bar I'll look into using the next size down, 1/2". Bolt head would normally be 9/16"

Ok, but still use the right tool for the job. I don't see why a small pipe wrench wouldn't work. He's probably past the point of hammering a smaller socket on.
 
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#42  
Ok, but still use the right tool for the job. I don't see why a small pipe wrench wouldn't work. He's probably past the point of hammering a smaller socket on.

Stated earlier, I can't get a pipe wrench to grip and stay. Tight spot makes it harder to tighten up the wrench, combined with the metal that's been bunched around, and I, personally, can't get it to work for me.

This post makes the third time I've stated this.
 
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#43  
Once those plugs get to that point, they are a bear to get out. The easiest way I've found is to find a nut that will just slip over the square plug. Then weld the snot out of it. Then you can use the proper wrench to get it back out.

You can get a a set of 8 point impact sockets from harbor freight pretty reasonably that are designed for the square plugs.

My post near the end of page 3 states my inclination towards this option. However without the equipment and experience to do so myself, I'm left taking the tractor to the shop. One shop is one my grandfather has taken equipment to multiple times for welding work. Price isn't anywhere near as outrageous as a dealer. Another shop option is a bit closer but I've never dealt with them. Both are close enough to drive that tractor to myself rather than get it hauled.
 
   / Rounded off drain plug #44  
A relatively new small pipe wrench with sharp jaws will easily fit in that space. You don't adjust it after you engage the plug. Set it up to fit slightly loose, slip it back to front (i'd use the thread area showing in the picture to minimize the bending moment that will arise as you apply torque.). Then give the wrench a 30 degree turn to engage the self locking jaws and slip a water pipe onto the handle. It will continue to tighten as you apply torque. Something will give, I can assure you. I've pulled plugs like this out of old windmill crank cases more mutilated than yours. All it takes is a small wrench, maybe 8 - 10" in length.
 
   / Rounded off drain plug #45  
Yes, square head.

View attachment 546567

Here's the current state of the plug. That bar should be removable, bolt on each end. The loader mounts to the frame on the front under the engine and to axle on the rear, just a support bar I suppose. Johnkn, I've tried those extractors as well, although the one I tried was the one that fit in it's current state. Once I remove the bar I'll look into using the next size down, 1/2". Bolt head would normally be 9/16"

Several of the ideas broached here should work. Another comes to mind after seeing the picture. Drill a 1/4 or 5/16" hole through the side in the threaded portion. Put a pin punch through the hole, put pressure on it while tapping in the buggered end. I have seen and done worse than this; not always easy but successful.

Ron
 
   / Rounded off drain plug #46  
My post near the end of page 3 states my inclination towards this option. However without the equipment and experience to do so myself, I'm left taking the tractor to the shop. One shop is one my grandfather has taken equipment to multiple times for welding work. Price isn't anywhere near as outrageous as a dealer. Another shop option is a bit closer but I've never dealt with them. Both are close enough to drive that tractor to myself rather than get it hauled.

Doesn't hurt to ask the welding place. Might be able to get it done for a pizza and a sixer :D
 
   / Rounded off drain plug #47  
I can understand not having the experience or tools to do the job. We've all been there. There's a learning curve to this type of trauma and it takes time and experience to get comfortable knowing what to do and when to do it. Most of us have been through things like this but he hasn't. He needs help and should get it. Next time around should be a whole different experience.
 
   / Rounded off drain plug #48  
This post makes the third time I've stated this.

Either you're using too big of a wrench, the wrench is junk or you’re not good at using one. That plug would come out with a pipe wrench. There's several other alternative options but that bar and lack of a welder limit them.
 
   / Rounded off drain plug #49  
Either you're using too big of a wrench, the wrench is junk or your not good at using one. That plug would come out with a pipe wrench. There's several other alternative options but that bar and lack of a welder limit them.
Yup..
 
   / Rounded off drain plug #50  
If you simply don't feel comfortable moving forward by all means just take it to your trusted shop. My Snap-On and Craftsman bolt removal tools both mic up almost identical, 1 3/16" high. I've used them to remove bolts as ugly and even uglier than the pic you posted.

Take a deep breath, have an adult beverage, you'll get through this. I actually have a special small shelf on my workbench where I display the removed bolts in this situation to remind me what I have been through, and that there is light at the end of the tunnel. There are 2 from my bikes, a few from some of my Mustangs and Shelbys, and 1 from my Viper oil pan plug. The Viper was one of the worse, in an aluminum oil pan of all things. The bolt actually looks as bad or worse than your pic, but the tool backed it right out. Good luck!!
 

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