Weather and logic, people are strange

[CobyRupert]

The best way to learn how to handle your car is to get onto a frozen field or lake and test it out. You wouldn't need TC or ABS to control your vehicle. I had to learn to drive all over again with my first ABS equipped vehicle, after destroying my front end in a washout because the truck wouldn't stop. There's something wrong with a "safety feature" that greatly lengthens your stopping time on lower traction conditions.

Exactly! ...and yet some here swear by it. I swear at it!

Test prove anti-lock brakes are WORSE (i.e. take longer distance) when stopping on slippery conditions.

I run studded tires on my car, and a skidding studded tire on ice sure in h*ll stops a lot faster than a tire that is "anti-locking" to the point where very little, virtually no, braking is being done. There should be a switch to turn it off like most cars have for traction control.
The trick I've found with my car, if I feel the anti-locks NOT stopping me on ice, is to quickly pump the brakes to reset the "skid detection" calculation it does for a split second before the anti-locks switches on and reduces braking power. At least you get a split second of braking, then pump again, repeat.

 

[Peter 315]

That's what I do pump the brakes its sad you have to go back to the old school way

 

[prichard]

Back to the original topic, I don't get it either. I get cold easily which means here in the south I have to wear a jacket inside in summer at the office. At home 70 - 72 in winter and 78 in summer is great by me.

 

[Gary Fowler]

As a native upstate NYer who痴 lived in multiple southern states before coming back to NY, I can attest that your absolutely mistaken. The pile ups and wrecks I witnessed in NC and other southern states during snowfalls amounting to nothing more than a couple inches were incredible. I made gobs of money during every storm ripping southerners from ditches with my F250. You値l see a wreck here and there up here in the north because well, stupid exists all over. But you値l never see towns or entire counties literally shut right down over 6 inches of snow. When we first moved to NC my younger sister missed an entire week of school because of a freak 10 inch snowstorm in Mooresville. We don稚 even shut down schools here for that, might get a 2hr delay to clear the roads a bit but that痴 about it. Trust me, southerners are absolutely TERRIBLE drivers in the snow and have no business even attempting it. What you saw on TV was nothing but a .0001% of New England drivers. I致e always said that southerners should be made to take winter driving classes before being allowed to drive in winter weather.

It is not just the southern drivers not knowing how to drive in icy conditions. Many southern states don't have snow plows or salt trucks to take care of even light snow fall so all they can do is sand the bridges and wait for the snow to melt. When you get snow once in 10 years, counties cant justify the cost of snow plows or other equipment and no one in the south has tire chains.

 

[Mendonsy]

It is not just the southern drivers not knowing how to drive in icy conditions. Many southern states don't have snow plows or salt trucks to take care of even light snow fall so all they can do is sand the bridges and wait for the snow to melt. When you get snow once in 10 years, counties cant justify the cost of snow plows or other equipment and no one in the south has tire chains.

True ....
I was working on a project on the NC/SC border many years ago when they got a 10" snow storm. The only thing that the local DOT had to clean roads was a grader. It was a full 3 days before the roads were passable.

 

[MossRoad]

It's kinda not fair to laugh at folks that can't drive in snow if they've never had to live with it or develop those skills. Is kinda humorous how they panic and make a run for the milk and bread! What? Milk sandwiches again?

 

[RSKY]

Several years ago the factory I worked at had a new department manager from Barrie Canada. The first winter here in Kentucky he was laughing because the forecast was for snow and everybody was expecting the schools to be closed. Of course according to him, "you southern people just don't know how to drive on snow".

They had to send somebody after him the next morning. He couldn't get his car out of the driveway.

Typical Kentucky weather, it had rained all day while in the upper 30s. Dropped down to below 20 and snowed about four inches. So there was an inch of black ice under that light snow and our county has no snow equipment except for blades on the front of a few dump trucks. The county wouldn't spend the money on more specialized equipment for the three or four days a year they needed it.

I understand not knowing how to drive on snow and ice. I've seen it too many times. The secret is that you must maintain enough speed to stay on the road, but allow enough room to stop when you have no brakes.

RSKY

 

[bunyip]

We have a lot of dirt roads around our area and they become corrugated after a while between grader visits, first time I drove a car with ABS I was approaching a T intersection, applied the brakes and went halfway into the intersection, ABS does not like corrugations, in the snowfields near us I watched two girls fitting chains to the back wheels of their small hatchback in the snow, the car was a front wheel drive.
People drive to the snow and spend the night at the resorts, the snow is light and the tyres are warm and melts when they park, next morning after an overnight freeze they can't work out why the car won't move.
We take old hessian bags to put under the tyres for these occasions.

 

[ovrszd]

And having said that we have the heater on today and it is supposed to be a warm day, another couple of hours and it may just get there, at present the temp and my IQ feel about the same, I blame the red wine from last night.

You've enjoyed several months of good weather, you need to suffer with the rest of us!!!! We are looking ahead to better, you are bracing for worse. Ain't this World great!!!!!

 

[PhysAssist]

I worked in I.T.... spent about 25 years in a meat cooler server room. I didn't age in there. I'm 57 and only look 56.

Heheheheh!