Found this today...

[japody]

Let's say scrap iron is $150 per ton. That's 7.5 cents a pound. Let's say there is 500lbs there. That's $37.50. You'll spend 3 hrs getting it out of the timber and hauling it to the scrap yard. That's $12.50 an hour for your efforts with a tractor w/fel, a pickup and a trailer involved.

Maybe just leave it there and show it to your friends and family. Letting them dream up their own story about how it got there. Imagine a young boy or girl looking at it and discussing this.

This is our heritage.

Wouldn't ever think of selling it for scrap. Look at my avatar. Those are our yard ornaments.

 

[ovrszd]

Wouldn't ever think of selling it for scrap. Look at my avatar. Those are our yard ornaments.

Yep, I noticed that. Thank you for being a good steward of our heritage.

Bought a new wagon the other day from the scrap iron guy. Paid $10.

 

[japody]

Nice wagon.

 

[Creamer]

Saving our heritage is good but as a young Russian guy told me one time - they were so beholden to the past they couldn't get it out of the way to build the future whereas America didn't constrain itself this way. It really made me think about what value do things really have. this wagon for instance was a tool for someone but it is no obsolete as far as economic value whereas the steel it is made out of isn't. Is it not of more value to us as scrap iron - where do we draw the line?

 

[2LaneCruzer]

Yep, I noticed that. Thank you for being a good steward of our heritage.

Bought a new wagon the other day from the scrap iron guy. Paid $10.



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Is that some sort of gear on the inside of the rear wheel? Makes me think it might have been a horse drawn manure spreader, although the pictures I was able to Google up pretty much had smaller wheels in front.

 

[dstig1]

Saving our heritage is good but as a young Russian guy told me one time - they were so beholden to the past they couldn't get it out of the way to build the future whereas America didn't constrain itself this way. It really made me think about what value do things really have. this wagon for instance was a tool for someone but it is no obsolete as far as economic value whereas the steel it is made out of isn't. Is it not of more value to us as scrap iron - where do we draw the line?

While I get your point, I don't think we in this country are at any risk of saving "too much" of our history. Way too many treasures have been destroyed even in a place like Mpls/St Paul that has only been around ~150 yrs. Metropolitan bldg in Mpls being probably the best example Metropolitan Building (Minneapolis) - Wikipedia

Saving the occasional wagon or old car in no way is a risk of stagnating here... IMO

 

[/pine]

What's changing is value...these days it's more important to be politically correct than it is to be loyal to historical legacies and heritage...

 

[ovrszd]

Saving our heritage is good but as a young Russian guy told me one time - they were so beholden to the past they couldn't get it out of the way to build the future whereas America didn't constrain itself this way. It really made me think about what value do things really have. this wagon for instance was a tool for someone but it is no obsolete as far as economic value whereas the steel it is made out of isn't. Is it not of more value to us as scrap iron - where do we draw the line?

We sold restorable 67 Chevy pickups to China and they shipped us cheap Wal-Mart hammers that the claws will fly off of the first time they are swung hard at an object. Which has more value??

 

[ovrszd]

Is that some sort of gear on the inside of the rear wheel? Makes me think it might have been a horse drawn manure spreader, although the pictures I was able to Google up pretty much had smaller wheels in front.

This wagon has been heavily modified and changed from it's original intent. I can't confirm any of it's history.

Yep, it had a drive system of some kind on the rear axle. It's been gutted and discarded.

At some point in it's life it's also had a tilting bed, note the hinge rings at the rear.

The front axle is an automotive type, even has greasable king pins.

Again, my imagination runs wild. I think it's an automotive frame and springs with horsedrawn type axles and wheels mounted????

It came from an Amish farm.

 

[ovrszd]

What's changing is value...these days it's more important to be politically correct than it is to be loyal to historical legacies and heritage...

Stately quoted.