Kubota Hst Pedal vs John Deere Hst Pedals

[Industrial Toys]

I actually don't know why they can't build a hybrid type of HST. My Kubota wheel loader has HST but has a gas peddle like a car that controls both oil flow and engine speed. Then a F N R lever on the left of the steering column . And a lever at the back to raise RPMs for stationary (backhoe) work.

If you have a machine that needs full RPM like a mower, then the normal system is great, but for other things, I like the arrangement I described much better.

 

[RaydaKub]

I for one much prefer the Kubota pedal over the duel pedal setup, but it seems like I知 outnumbered here.

+1.

I'll admit I haven't driven a 2 pedal rig. But to me, my old BX rocks. Toe down (rock forward) and you go forward. Toe up, heal down (rock backwards) and you go backward. I never have to search for the pedal because my foot is always on it. I pivot my ankle and I'm moving the direction of the pivot. No stop, move foot, hope I'm on the right pedal when I push.

 

[4570Man]

It is just what you get used to. My Kioti is the side by side two pedals, and I like it fine. When I had the Kubota treadle pedal, I liked it fine too. It just takes time to adapt.

Probably true. I’ve used the JD duel pedals, but only for a few minutes at a time and it was about like a fish out of water.

 

[airbiscuit]

Goofy Foot??

 

[SDT]

Just made the switch from a JD 4200 with Hst to a Kubota MX5800 Hst. I know the Hst pedals were completely different with the JD having 2 side by side pedals for forward and reverse and the Kubota having the single Hst front to back pedal.

Initially I thought the Kubota was the better design, but I'm having a bit of a problem making the switch. I know the more I use the Kubota the better it will get. I go from using my whole foot, toe for forward and heel for reverse and I've tried completely moving my foot for the change. Both don't seam natural to me so far.

Tell me how you veteran Kubota Hst'ers use your pedal.....

I own 5 Kubotas, four of which are hydrostats. These four are the Kubotas that I use most often. Suffice it to say that I am sold on Kubota. Yes, I have owned a JD.

That said, now that the patents have expired on dual fwd/rev hydro pedals, it is time for Kubota to smell the roses and get on the bandwagon.

SDT

 

[k0ua]

Probably true. I’ve used the JD duel pedals, but only for a few minutes at a time and it was about like a fish out of water.

It takes one or two days of working with it to get comfortable. The Kioti felt very strange for a couple of days, then it was just fine. At least that is the way it worked for me. But I adapt to new things pretty well despite being an old gasbag. I bet if a shiny new Kubota arrived with its treadle pedal, I would think it was great. I do like the brakes on the left which my Kioti has, as I use the brakes a fair amount when doing some jobs.

 

[k0ua]

Goofy Foot??

Interesting the cartoon was from 1937 (MCMXXXVII) but the Elvis music was from 1956, although he was not the first to do it.

 

[nybirdman]

I have one of each;don't seem to notice a problem with either one.

 

[Fallon]

I have a preference for the single treadle design. I attribute 80% of that to being on my 2nd Kubota & never having owned a 2 pedal HST. I didnt notice much about the JDs when I test drive them other than they felt different. I'd assume I'd prefer the 2 pedal if that's what I owned & used. My former L3200 ducked with the brakes on the right. Had to ride side saddle to use turning brakes with the go pedal (and you can't use turning brakes on a HST if you aren't using the go pedal). The new L4060 has no clutch, so go pedal on the right & brakes on the left, as it should be

As far as the clunky shifting on the gearbox behind the HST. Every single one I've test drove (Orange, orange, green, red, blue, etc) all had clunky unsynchronized 3 speeds (except the economy JD, which was a clunky 2 speed). I assume they do that to save money & as you have HST you dont need to shift it to much (even better with HST+). All machines are made to a price point & I assume that's a pretty standard engineering cost vs marketing value tradeoff everybody has decided on.

 

[akgoy09]

I have driven both JD and Kubota, either one is fine with me. I prefer Kubota tractors, so I guess I prefer the tredle