Talk me into one or the other

[IH3444]

Have you looked at the Kioti 2610 with the $400 option of the heavier loader that is standard on the 4010?

 

[rgr33]

For 3 acres, and considering the chores you have in mind for this tractor, I agree with Jeff that staying under 25 hp seems a good idea. No need to get into tier 4 if you can avoid it.

LS, Kioti, Yanmar, and Kubota all offer very good machines in this size. If you like to gamble on the future the Rural King with the Yanmar engine might be worth looking at, but the resale value would be less than the others if you ever decide to upgrade, and it seems like we all like to upgrade .

 

[smartascii]

Have you considered Mahindra? You have a dealer about 25 miles from your city. If you're looking at TYM and LS then the Mahindra might impress you. TYM makes some machines for Mahindra as well. My 2655 is a TYM machine.

I went to Mahindra of Massillon, which is the dealer I assume you're referencing. I don't know if maybe I'm making a mistake telling these dealers that this is my first tractor, but he quoted me $19k for a Max 26 XL, and 23k for a 1533 Shuttle. I think these are MSRPs, so either they don't deal, or he thinks I can't go online and do research. The tractors themselves were fine, I was just surprised by the amount he was asking.

 

[smartascii]

Have you looked at the Kioti 2610 with the $400 option of the heavier loader that is standard on the 4010?

I did. Also a very nice tractor. I think for most of these, it seems to come down to price. This North Carolina dealer sells his tractors cheap, and I'm having a hard time coming anywhere close with the local dealers.

 

[smartascii]

So, the consensus seems to be that I probably don't need a 37-40HP tractor for what I'm needing to do. And, hey, that'll save me more than $3k, so that's no bad thing. Any input on implements? New vs. used, which ones are most important, etc.?

 

[oosik]

Well - I've never had a used implement. Its simply because in the 36+ years here - I've yet to find anything. If you know what to look for a used implement should be just fine.

Some things I've found/seen. Many buy a backhoe attachment - use it once - store it forever. Regarding ground engagement implements - (Ex - rear blade, box blade, land plane grading scraper, disk harrow - - ) weight is your friend. My case for example - I have a 96" Land Pride rear blade that weight 560 pounds. It does a wonderful job of removing snow from my mile long driveway. It doesn't even measure up to a crappy job of maintaining my mile long gravel driveway in the summer. Its simply too light - just bounces along back there. Sooo....... I bought a Rhino 950 - 96" - 1050 pound rear blade. Now that's some real meat and will bear the driveway raw - right down to the bedrock - if one is not careful.

Implements - front end loader ( FEL ) & bucket - - rear blade. And YES - having access to a GOOD dealership is important. However, you have a truck and trailer that can transport the tractor. Makes a dealer at 50 miles distant a doable thing.

My suggestion - Choose carefully, grasshopper. You may only have to choose once.

 

[jeff9366]

Any input on implements? New vs. used, which ones are most important, etc.?

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[Woody65]

So, the consensus seems to be that I probably don't need a 37-40HP tractor for what I'm needing to do. And, hey, that'll save me more than $3k, so that's no bad thing. Any input on implements? New vs. used, which ones are most important, etc.?

I have bought probably half my implements used. None of them have given me any trouble and I have saved a few bucks. Just examine them and attempt to determine if they have been abused and not serviced as required. I got a brush hog, finish mower, scrape blade all used and they are still going fine. Good luck.

 

[CMV]

For stuff with a gearbox or that you could break....consider warranty on attachments is 1 yr. So not like you're buying peace of mind knowing if it tears up yrs down the road, a warranty has you covered.

If you get a package deal that includes decent attachments, only the ones you want, and in the size you want, that's best way to buy new ones. Get them from the dealer with the tractor purchase. Different companies have multiple attachment rebates that save $. In my case, dealer sold the attachments at cost with the tractor purchase. You DON'T want to buy the tractor, then go back a month later and pay full retail for a bush hog or whatever from the dealer.

Some stuff you could probably just look at it tell it's fine - like a box blade - it's either damaged or it isn't. Anything with moving parts, that's a crapshoot buying used. Around here clist is littered with 15 y/o bush hogs slathered in fresh paint for $700. The plus side is used implements do not retain their value for most part. 60% of new price is reasonable for something used and in real good shape - needs nothing, ready to work.

 

[Omega Woods]

I just bought a Kubota BX2380. I think it would be perfect for your needs. If it was my only tractor, I might have gone up to the 2680. KTAC sealed the deal for me since my wife uses our small tractor exclusively and she doesn't have any previous tractoring experience and I wanted to have coverage in case it gets damaged accidentilly.

If value for money is really important to you, go drive to your nearest Branson dealer before you buy and drive a 2400.