what 2nd implement to get for L2501?

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I'm looking to purchase a L2501. I am getting the QA loader and front bucket (I'm not sure if I'll get the 60" or 66" bucket yet). If I purchase another kubota or land pride implement, I get an additional $300 off due to kubota's current rebates. I'll use this tractor for moving a lot of dirt and rock. I will not use it for snow and I will not use it for mowing. I do want to get a middle buster and subsoiler, but I don't think they are considered "eligible" implements. I assume the best implement for smoothing dirt would be a 60" or 60" box blade, so that's an option. The other option that I have is to get a land pride quick hitch. This would make more sense if I can buy a box blade in the aftermarket market quite a bit cheaper than from the dealer that I buy the tractor from, because, I get this $300 rebate no matter what the 2nd implement costs. Either way with the quick hitch (QH10, QH15, etc.) or the box blade (BB1260, BB1266, BB1560, BB1566, BB2560, BB2566) land pride makes several models. Which models would you suggest?
 
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L2501 has only one Loader option, LA525, approximately 1,100 pounds lift capacity.

You will want at least 400 pounds counterbalance mounted on the Three Point Hitch for FEL work, 500 pounds better, especially if rear tires are not "loaded". ((In flat Illinois, I would not load the rear tires on a 25-horsepower tractor, personally.))

Box Blades only begin to cut well when the weight is 100 pounds per foot of width. I had a Kubota B3300SU, a predecessor model to L2501. L2501 with optional 4-WD can pull a 500 pound Box Blade fine.

For those two reasons research Box Blades 400 pounds to 500 pounds in weight, 60" or 66" wide.

Weight is your friend in ground contact work.

Many here, including myself, feel there is more value in Land Pride's heavier implements than in Land Pride's light implements.


Land Plane/Grading Scrapers (LPGS) are the alternative to Box Blades for smoothing dirt, especially in road maintenance.
VIDEOS: land plane grading scraper - YouTube
5 Most Common: Compact Tractor Attachments - YouTube
 

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Unfortunately I haven稚 been able to find the weight of the different landpride box blades, so I知 not sure which ones are heavier. I won稚 be smoothing dirt for roads. It壇 be in my backyard before grass is planted. I don稚 know anything about grading scrapers either. Is that what would be recommended in comparison to a box blade?
 
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Unfortunately I haven稚 been able to find the weight of the different landpride box blades, so I知 not sure which ones are heavier. I won稚 be smoothing dirt for roads. It壇 be in my backyard before grass is planted. I don稚 know anything about grading scrapers either. Is that what would be recommended in comparison to a box blade?

You can always add weights onto a Box blade to help with the cutting (steel Plates , Concrete or even Block)
 
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Box Blades are designed to transport dirt short distances, as well as smooth. With your clarification, a Box Blade is what you need.

If you dig through Land Pride's web site, especially specs, brochures and manuals, almost all Box Blades weights are somewhere.

See Page 13, BB2560, BB2566: https://www.landpride.com/ari/attach/lp/public/manuals/303-082m.pdf

You can find the balance of LP BB weights through Google searches.




LPGS smooths dirt but only contains a small amount of dirt, ever changing, in reservoir before smoothing blades. Used almost exclusively for smoothing roads, infrequently to smooth uneven fields undergoing major rehabilitation.
 
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I use my box blade a lot, brush hog a lot as well. Have a post hole digger - upcoming project will use it a lot.

Have a new tractor coming - seems forks will be my next implement - they can do a lot that a bucket can't.
 
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I haven't been able to find the weight of the different Land Pride box blades. I'll be in my backyard before grass is planted

If you only need to prep 1/4 acre before seeding grass, a Ratchet Rake will be sufficient. (Order RR through T-B-N STORE, button at top of this page.)


Then you can select another Land Pride implement heavy enough to be counterbalance FEL loads. Perhaps a PTO powered Roto-Tiller?
LINKS:
https://www.landpride.com/ari/attach/lp/public/manuals/311-252m.pdf

http://www.lsuagcenter.com/~/media/...aa214276e14dacb/pub2917tractorimplements1.pdf






Re: Ratchet Rake // Today
6/09/2016
This post concerns Ratchet Rakes Vs. light Box Blades, such as the 60" Land Pride BB1260/346 pounds/69 pounds per foot.

I searched for the weight of kubota L3301 bucket but could not find a number. I presume L3301 bucket weighs approximately 240 pounds, extrapolating from other kubota specs. 68" Ratchet Rake weighs 88 pounds. Adding 240 + 88 = 328 pounds, pretty close to 346 pounds of BB1260 Box Blade.

In addition, the (operator controlled) weight of the FEL frame bears on the Ratchet Rake. Likewise, weight of the Three Point Hitch bears on the Box Blade. FEL frames weigh much more than ( 3X? 4X?) Three Point Hitch components. So, including some FEL weight, I guesstimate that ground contact pressure on Ratchet Rake and BB1260 would be at least equal, perhaps greater pressure on the Ratchet Rake.

Further in Ratchet Rake's favor you have articulation of bucket/RR combination in two planes from the operator's station and 1-1/2" serrated teeth on the Ratchet Rake.

Box Blade can be raised and lowered hydraulically from the operator's station. Box Blade angle of attack is adjustable via the Three Point Hitch Top Link, but not from the operator's station. Standard Box Blade does not have rippers, standard is a smooth cutting edge.

Ratchet Rake is capable of tearing up sod with its serrated teeth, the initial operation in much grading. The Ratchet Rake will not pull as large a load as a Box Blade but it may pull 35% of capacity of BB1260 per pass, with faster cycles. Ratchet Rake is more intuitive in operation than a Box Blade, which requires considerable experience to operate efficiently.

This is why I feel the Ratchet Rake is superior to light Box Blades for LIGHT grading.

I own both a Ratchet Rake and a Rollover Box Blade.

When I have heavy grading to do, I mount my 60"/625 pound (125 pounds per foot) Bush Hog (brand) Rollover Box Blade on the tractor's Three Point Hitch AND the Ratchet Rake on my FEL bucket.
 

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I'm looking to purchase a L2501. I am getting the QA loader and front bucket (I'm not sure if I'll get the 60" or 66" bucket yet). If I purchase another kubota or land pride implement, I get an additional $300 off due to kubota's current rebates. I'll use this tractor for moving a lot of dirt and rock. I will not use it for snow and I will not use it for mowing. I do want to get a middle buster and subsoiler, but I don't think they are considered "eligible" implements. I assume the best implement for smoothing dirt would be a 60" or 60" box blade, so that's an option. The other option that I have is to get a land pride quick hitch. This would make more sense if I can buy a box blade in the aftermarket market quite a bit cheaper than from the dealer that I buy the tractor from, because, I get this $300 rebate no matter what the 2nd implement costs. Either way with the quick hitch (QH10, QH15, etc.) or the box blade (BB1260, BB1266, BB1560, BB1566, BB2560, BB2566) land pride makes several models. Which models would you suggest?

Based on your info I would get a box blade. Probably a 66” model. That will cover your tracks well.

On the bucket I would get a 60” model. I think 66” is too wide for the L2501, L3301 and L3901 loaders. You are very smart to get a quick attach loader.

Here’s a walk around video of my L3301. I talk about the bucket. The L3301 is very similar to the L2501.

New Tractor!! Kubota L3301 - YouTube
 
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If your buying the implement through Kubota I would recommend a BB1560 or 1566 box blade. The 15 series isn’t sold as often anymore but is a little better built than the more common 12 series box blades. For a second implement you can accomplish a lot with it. After that I would recommend quick attach forks or a 3pt landscape rake. Of course depending on your intended uses and projects/chores you could always consider a brush hog or rototiller as well.
 
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Just for reference my BB1566 box blade weighs in at $450 and is honestly a little light to use behind my l3901 for ballast.
 

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