Taking rock from BLM... actually part of my Grandpa's building?

   / Taking rock from BLM... actually part of my Grandpa's building? #21  
It certainly isn't prehistoric. It certainly isn't an antiquity. That leaves historic. I'd be very surprised if that old structure is on the list of historic places. (Hint, if it were there would almost certainly be a plaque and it would probably would have been restored by now. I've dealt with preservationists before, they are like a dog with a bone once something gets designated as historic.) In other words, I don't think the law cited applies in this instance. Even if it did, it is at most $500 and I suspect a judge would throw that out in a heartbeat given the family attachment. I'm with those who say just take the personalized building stones

Being a listed historical place has nothing to do with it. I agree that he should have just taken off with a rock or two. Now he has plastered the world wide web with his wifes photo and their wish to violate the law.

Furthermore, seeing as you are unlikely to be a JD, your guesses what the penalty would be is pretty specious. He could lose his car, a bunch of money and get a federal felony conviction. The moment he made his post he screwed up.
 
   / Taking rock from BLM... actually part of my Grandpa's building? #22  
Being a listed historical place has nothing to do with it. I agree that he should have just taken off with a rock or two. Now he has plastered the world wide web with his wifes photo and their wish to violate the law.

Furthermore, seeing as you are unlikely to be a JD, your guesses what the penalty would be is pretty specious. He could lose his car, a bunch of money and get a federal felony conviction. The moment he made his post he screwed up.

I don't mean to be argumentative but your own quote stated the penalty was a fine up to $500 and/or 90 days of jail. Or did I misread that?
 
   / Taking rock from BLM... actually part of my Grandpa's building? #23  
Being a listed historical place has nothing to do with it. I agree that he should have just taken off with a rock or two. Now he has plastered the world wide web with his wifes photo and their wish to violate the law.

Furthermore, seeing as you are unlikely to be a JD, your guesses what the penalty would be is pretty specious. He could lose his car, a bunch of money and get a federal felony conviction. The moment he made his post he screwed up.

Being historic has a lot to do with it. The law specifically states it has to be historic, prehistoric or an antiquity. Clearly it is hot prehistoric or an antiquity. I have had experience restoring a place formally recognized as historic. The preservationists get very picky. (For example, they were making a big stink about the exact design of munions in door windows on an old firehouse. We pointed out to them that every photo that could be found showed there were no doors. They kept making the argument and making up restoration requirements without anything to back up their claim. They finally settled down when we suggested that we should duplicate the munions of the windows in the upper floors.)
 
   / Taking rock from BLM... actually part of my Grandpa's building? #24  
Being historic has a lot to do with it. The law specifically states it has to be historic, prehistoric or an antiquity. Clearly it is hot prehistoric or an antiquity. I have had experience restoring a place formally recognized as historic. The preservationists get very picky. (For example, they were making a big stink about the exact design of munions in door windows on an old firehouse. We pointed out to them that every photo that could be found showed there were no doors. They kept making the argument and making up restoration requirements without anything to back up their claim. They finally settled down when we suggested that we should duplicate the munions of the windows in the upper floors.)

None of that has anything to do with public lands and taking of artifacts
 
   / Taking rock from BLM... actually part of my Grandpa's building? #25  
I don't mean to be argumentative but your own quote stated the penalty was a fine up to $500 and/or 90 days of jail. Or did I misread that?

You misread
 
   / Taking rock from BLM... actually part of my Grandpa's building? #26  
in any case, what's there is the property of the descendants, and they can do what they want with it.. there is still a line of ownership there.. and proof is engraved on the rocks..
 
   / Taking rock from BLM... actually part of my Grandpa's building? #27  
in any case, what's there is the property of the descendants, and they can do what they want with it.. there is still a line of ownership there.. and proof is engraved on the rocks..

Untrue.

If my grandfather scratched his initials in Grand Coulee during the construction, does that make it mine?
 
   / Taking rock from BLM... actually part of my Grandpa's building? #28  
There was also a statement that another lived there after the Ancestor, so any claim of ownership is gone out the window.
 
   / Taking rock from BLM... actually part of my Grandpa's building? #29  
They never had title. If I lived at a house 70 years ago, could I come back years later and dismantle the siding or remove flowers.
 
   / Taking rock from BLM... actually part of my Grandpa's building? #30  
You misread
I read it properly . I was just being polite. The law you cited specifically says historic, prehistoric or antiquity. The old cabin is none of those. It also specifically states the max penalty, if it applied, is up to $500 and/or up to 90 days. So, wish the op well.
 

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