FEL Lift capacity

[Jcoon]

No matter what, until you put enough weight on the rear ballast to make the rear end the fulcrum point, whatever you put for rear weight on the tractor is going to transfer to the front end.

 

[TMGT]

No matter what, until you put enough weight on the rear ballast to make the rear end the fulcrum point, whatever you put for rear weight on the tractor is going to transfer to the front end.

Since you do dot enforcement I would imagine you have portable scales available to you, go ahead and try it. Scale the front tires, lift a heavy weight with the front end and heavy 3pt weight on the ground, then lift the 3pt see what the scales say.

 

[oosik]

Hmmm - - glad we got that matter resolved. So that's why the front end on my 10,100 pound M6040 comes off the ground when I sit my fat a** further back in the seat - teeter/totter affect. No - more likely its the "fat a** affect".

 

[sd455dan]

ONLY if the weight in the back exceeds the weight in front of the rear axle, which is a LOT. I don’t think anyone has that much rear ballast weight because without anything in the bucket the front tires would come off the ground.

It’s very simple once you understand it.

Wrong. rear axle acts as a fulcrum and adding weight behind the rear axle does (reduce) the weight on the front axle.

who said anything about the front tires coming off the ground?

if you don't believe LD1 slightly under inflate your front tires and then mount and lift a heavy 3 point implement and observe the sidewall bulge of the front tires.
or what the scales say as TMGT posted- this is not rocket science

 

[Jcoon]

Since you do dot enforcement I would imagine you have portable scales available to you, go ahead and try it. Scale the front tires, lift a heavy weight with the front end and heavy 3pt weight on the ground, then lift the 3pt see what the scales say.

Portable scales are 30,000 dollars, not exactly something to just take home..

So all else equal here..


Say I have 1,000 pounds on the front axle with an empty bucket, and 800 pounds on the rear axle, total weight of 1,800 pounds, I put 1,000 pounds in the bucket, all of that 1,000 pounds in the bucket transfers to the front end, and some of the 800 pounds on the rear now transfers to the front, say I put 500 pounds of rear ballast on the back, yes some of the 500 goes to the rear axle, but some of the 500 also goes on the front axle.

Rear ballast weight does not take weight off the front end till it makes the rear end the fulcrum point, which would be a lot of weight.

 

[Jcoon]

Or even easier pick up a max weight object in the FEL and then lift the 3 point with something heavy on it and observe the front tire sidewall bulge, this is not rocket science

Lmao common guys! This is exactly what I’m saying!!

Putting a rear weight on the tractor will add even more weight to the front axle.

 

[TMGT]

Portable scales are 30,000 dollars, not exactly something to just take home..

So all else equal here..


Say I have 1,000 pounds on the front axle with an empty bucket, and 800 pounds on the rear axle, total weight of 1,800 pounds, I put 1,000 pounds in the bucket, all of that 1,000 pounds in the bucket transfers to the front end, and some of the 800 pounds on the rear now transfers to the front, say I put 500 pounds of rear ballast on the back, yes some of the 500 goes to the rear axle, but some of the 500 also goes on the front axle.

Rear ballast weight does not take weight off the front end till it makes the rear end the fulcrum point, which would be a lot of weight.

No take home car? The VSP dot have take home Tahoes and the scales stay in the truck.

What your missing is it's not a simple fulcrum. I understand what you're saying but you're missing some parts too your thought process.

 

[LD1]

ONLY if the weight in the back exceeds the weight in front of the rear axle, which is a LOT. I don稚 think anyone has that much rear ballast weight because without anything in the bucket the front tires would come off the ground.

It痴 very simple once you understand it.

Portable scales are 30,000 dollars, not exactly something to just take home..

So all else equal here..


Say I have 1,000 pounds on the front axle with an empty bucket, and 800 pounds on the rear axle, total weight of 1,800 pounds, I put 1,000 pounds in the bucket, all of that 1,000 pounds in the bucket transfers to the front end, and some of the 800 pounds on the rear now transfers to the front, say I put 500 pounds of rear ballast on the back, yes some of the 500 goes to the rear axle, but some of the 500 also goes on the front axle.

Rear ballast weight does not take weight off the front end till it makes the rear end the fulcrum point, which would be a lot of weight.

Lmao common guys! This is exactly what I知 saying!!

Putting a rear weight on the tractor will add even more weight to the front axle.

You are just plain wrong on so many levels on this. And I get the impression you are one of those who argue till you are blue in the face and still won't conciede. This is basic elementary lever stuff. If you are unwilling to put forth the effort and so some expirementing on your own...I am not gonna try to convince you. These arguments are not worth the effort when you are unwilling to learn. So keep on believing you are right. I'll keep living in reality

 

[Jcoon]

Lol ok guys...

 

[sd455dan]

Lmao common guys! This is exactly what I’m saying!!

Putting a rear weight on the tractor will add even more weight to the front axle.

I am saying the front tire sidewall will show reduced bulge when the heavy 3 point weight is raised'

That means a reduction in the weight placed on the front tires. we are not saying the same thing.

because you have stated that adding weight behind the rear axle INCREASES weight on the front axle and that is not correct.

Oh cross post .. OK.. Glad you got it:thumbsup: