2014 Cabela's LM35H - Electrical Issue - Help Needed

[Seasoul]

Thank you Coyote Machine!
Will pass along to the fellas over at John Deere.

 

[cricketfarm]

Where are you located? SeaSoul..
We just bought a 2538 hst Mahindra. The Dealer had a Cabela's in the shop then doing service work. I beleive they said it was made by Mahindra Sold By Cabelas. till Bass Pro bout them out a few yrs ago. then discontinued it.. anyway call tractor country ask for Jimmy Hoffman 252-523-3007 he may be able to help.

 

[Coyote machine]

Thank you Coyote Machine!
Will pass along to the fellas over at John Deere.

Thanks, and you're welcome. I'd sure like to see your tractor up and running reliably again, but no matter the fix I think I would keep the battery isolator on just to prevent any further issues
Let us know what you find...

 

[Seasoul]

Coyote: I'm here in the fine state of North Carolina, the tractor is in the thriving metropolis know as Carthage.

 

[Coyote machine]

Coyote: I'm here in the fine state of North Carolina, the tractor is in the thriving metropolis know as Carthage.

You sure its not Carnage?!
I read the other 9 page currently, thread about 'Cabela's Tractors' and a guy there says the parts and diagrams are the same for the TYM and Cabela's tractors. If I were you I'd get my hands on a TYM wiring diagram of a TYM tractor, same vintage as yours, with same options etc. and 'back-match' the diagram and wires to the diagram to see if it is the same, or similar enough for most major parts like controllers, switches, relays etc. It might be the same or similar enough to get the job done. Its certainly worth a try.

 

[LouNY]

Is your fuel solenoid normally energized to run and deenergized to shut down?
Or energized to shut off the fuel?
On tractors requiring it to be energized to run there are normally two windings, a pull in which takes a higher current
and a maintain which holds it energized while working. This normal on many of the larger farm tractors.
Many of the smaller one seem to energize for a few seconds to shut down the fuel then drop out and let the fuel valve open.
These will normally have a small controller to operate them.

 

[Coyote machine]

Is your fuel solenoid normally energized to run and deenergized to shut down?
Or energized to shut off the fuel?
On tractors requiring it to be energized to run there are normally two windings, a pull in which takes a higher current
and a maintain which holds it energized while working. This normal on many of the larger farm tractors.
Many of the smaller one seem to energize for a few seconds to shut down the fuel then drop out and let the fuel valve open.
These will normally have a small controller to operate them.

POST # 9, Page 1:Where are we now
The Fuel Shut-Off Solenoid is staying electrically charged (constantly on vice momentary on) once the tractor is started.
The electrical signal should be momentary to the Fuel Shut Off Solenoid, just long enough to retract the plunger and allow for fuel to flow.
However, with the constant charge there are are problems that result:
1 - The tractor will continue to run when the ignition (key) is switched to off
2 - The constant electrical charge heats up the wires until they melt.
3- The constant electrical charge and heat destroy the fuel shut off solenoid.

 

[LouNY]

POST # 9, Page 1:Where are we now
The Fuel Shut-Off Solenoid is staying electrically charged (constantly on vice momentary on) once the tractor is started.
The electrical signal should be momentary to the Fuel Shut Off Solenoid, just long enough to retract the plunger and allow for fuel to flow.
However, with the constant charge there are are problems that result:
1 - The tractor will continue to run when the ignition (key) is switched to off
2 - The constant electrical charge heats up the wires until they melt.
3- The constant electrical charge and heat destroy the fuel shut off solenoid.

That statement doesn't make sense.
If it is momentary, it should be momentary to stop fuel flow,
then return to the run position.

 

[Coyote machine]

That statement doesn't make sense.
If it is momentary, it should be momentary to stop fuel flow,
then return to the run position.

It's a direct quote from the thread OP. Take it up with him, I put it there to clarify what is already in the thread for anyone, including you, to read at any time...:confused3:

BTW, rereading post #9, it is contradictory. It should energize to shut down flow - as in fuel shut-OFF solenoid; not open momentarily to allow fuel to flow.?! :confused2:
BUT it seems he is ALSO saying it stays energized and overheats and thus causes burnt wires, etc.

I see your point Lou...

 

[LouNY]

That was why I asked my question as there are two different styles of fuel solenoids those that energize to run and those that energize to shutdown,
they have different wiring and control means.