Why Branson over Others ?

   / Why Branson over Others ? #11  
Also, the power shuttle is only in the 7845 and 8050.
The others are hydros or mechanical shuttles.
Lou
 
   / Why Branson over Others ? #12  
I'll be honest, I'd never heard of Branson before I bought mine. I bought my dealer.

I went to each brand's local dealer in the town I live in (Bismarck, ND). All the major brands are represented here in town with respective dealers. New Holland, John Deere, Kubota, Case/MF, Bobcat-Kioti (same dealer), and Branson (no Mahindra btw). All but 2 dealers completely ignored me when I was on their property. I mean literally, completely. ignored me. I went to some of these dealers multiple times over a week. Same treatment. Literally wouldn't even say "Hello", or make eye contact, when I was standing in their showroom. Well, on one visit, the New Holland salesman did say he'd call me back. Never did.

The John Deere dealer actually had someone who spoke to me (I was shocked), but they didn't have any models on hand that were even remotely close to what I was looking for. Their only solution was to tell me there was a tractor down at Aberdeen, SD (200 miles away), that was pretty close to what I wanted, and I could drive down there and look at it if I wanted to. Or, I could just buy one, sight unseen, from looking at the glossy brochure (for $55K), and hope for the best.

I needed a tractor. I needed it that weekend. I was ready to sign that day. None of them cared.

I then found the local Branson dealer, (and he's kinda small compared to size of the others in town), and went to look at his tractors. Not only did he have the sizes I was looking for in stock, he actually waited on me, and treated me like a customer. Came out to his row of tractors with a fist full of keys, and let me climb over/in any tractor I wanted. I narrowed it down to the one I thought would work best, and he tossed me the keys and said "Go play", pointing to the open field next door. Said to come in when I was done and he'd answer any questions I had.

The stats he listed (FEL capacity, 3 pt lift capacity, tractor weight, 4 cyl Cummins all-iron casting engine) for the 25 series were better in every way than the other brands in the same size/hp range, and the 25 series came with all the "extras" as standard. Cab mounted work lights, A/C as well as heat in cab, cruise control, linked hydro pedal, independent pto, 2 rear remotes, both lower link arms were adjustable (and true link arms, not turn buckles), both 540 and 540E pto settings, rear diff lock, and a true "standard" SSQA FEL.

A whole lot of features that you either had to buy extra, or go up to a higher level unit to get with some of the competition's models. Plus, it came in $20K cheaper than the one the JD salesman (the only one who spoke to me) was trying to get me to buy sight unseen. It comes with a great warranty, that so far I've not needed. And it's done everything I've asked it to (so far), including picking up, moving and feeding large round bales for my neighbor. I mostly use mine for mowing with a 3pt brush hog (6'), and clearing snow in winter (FEL/bucket so far, but 7' blower hopefully this winter). Also some basic yard cleanup, tree clearing, etc as needed.

The biggest features to me (on the 25 series) are:

Tractor weight. One of the most ignored, and probably most important stats, is how much the tractor weighs. Almost always, more weight is better. The cabbed 25 series lists 4200 lbs for a bare tractor, that's no FEL, and no attachments. I had my dealer fill my rear tires with Rimguard (can't recommend enough), and with my FEL & bucket, and 6' box blade on rear, my tractor weighs 7100 lbs. That's actual weight, as weighed by me, on a certified CAT scale.

FEL lift capacity. Have to be careful here, as some manufacturers get "tricky" on how they rate this. Branson rates theirs to 2100 lbs to FULL HEIGHT, but they don't say if it's "at the pins", or distance from pins. I'm assuming it's "at the pins". Other brands list it as only "X" distance off ground.

FEL lift height. Branson lists max height as 103", and 97" with "attachment level", which I assume means with bucket sitting level, but raised to max height.

3 pt hitch lift. 3637 lbs of lift at the link arms.

Hydraulics. 11.1 gallon per minute pump. Also has separate power steering pump for steering the tractor, so you're not running out of steering if you've got your hydraulics maxed out lifting something big and trying to move it.

Comes with big features, it's well built, and comes with a small (comparatively) price tag.

What's not to love?
 
   / Why Branson over Others ?
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#13  
Bigcut, I have had one for >14 years, simple, very strongly made, other than replacing a fuel pump and some glow plugs along with the regular filter and fluid changes, I have had few problems which I have discussed elsewhere in this forum. Best thing to do is what you have already been told, go to a dealer and test drive one. For what it is worth, I have the shuttle transmission in mine. W Jones

Thanks 52, How does your experience compare with your Kubota......What's the dealer service like for both brands ?
 
   / Why Branson over Others ? #14  
Bought my 3520h w/ backhoe from Dave’s tractor in CA about 3 years ago.

I didn’t know much about Branson until I’ve seen comments here and started to see them at a local dealer. When the time came, the Branson won out primarily for 3 reasons, engine, gross weight, and FEL lifting capability of 2100 lbs. the nice touches are the fuel tank filler at step height, telescoping 3ph links, tilt steering, fender mounted joystick, comfortable full-ride & adjustable seat, electronic PTO & cruise control. All those features are standard for the Branson but are only options for other brands. I opted for dual rear remotes and a 3rd function (looks factory installed!) for only $1,200 more to my total price. I got my Branson at a special price offered by Dave and I took it.

Only issue I had was the seat broke at the adjustment handle. They gave me an entire kit to replace with as I opted to fix it myself and ended up not using the parts from the kit (needed just one measly roller pin) but opted to use a cut piece from an extra hardened Allen wrench as a pin. It has been trouble-free since and I’m approaching 350 hrs.

The owners manual could have been better but I’m able to get fast support from here, Dave’s, and my local Branson dealer. Jotted down a few notes to put in the manual (maintenance) and I’m golden.
 
   / Why Branson over Others ?
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#15  
Bought my 3520h w/ backhoe from Dave’s tractor in CA about 3 years ago.

I didn’t know much about Branson until I’ve seen comments here and started to see them at a local dealer. When the time came, the Branson won out primarily for 3 reasons, engine, gross weight, and FEL lifting capability of 2100 lbs. the nice touches are the fuel tank filler at step height, telescoping 3ph links, tilt steering, fender mounted joystick, comfortable full-ride & adjustable seat, electronic PTO & cruise control. All those features are standard for the Branson but are only options for other brands. I opted for dual rear remotes and a 3rd function (looks factory installed!) for only $1,200 more to my total price. I got my Branson at a special price offered by Dave and I took it.

Only issue I had was the seat broke at the adjustment handle. They gave me an entire kit to replace with as I opted to fix it myself and ended up not using the parts from the kit (needed just one measly roller pin) but opted to use a cut piece from an extra hardened Allen wrench as a pin. It has been trouble-free since and I’m approaching 350 hrs.

The owners manual could have been better but I’m able to get fast support from here, Dave’s, and my local Branson dealer. Jotted down a few notes to put in the manual (maintenance) and I’m golden.

Aqua, how do you iike the backfhoe ? Was it worth the investment ? Which model backhoe ?
Would buy Branson all over again ? How adaptable is Branson using other manufacturers implements ?
JD has contrived things, making ti difficult to use other brands. So you have to buy JD.
Your thoughts.
John
 
   / Why Branson over Others ? #16  
The SSQA on my Branson loader mates well with the two SSQA front implements I've bought (pallet forks and a grapple). Cat 1 three point implements are pretty generic, I can't imagine any modern cat 1 tractor having a problem with any relatively recent cat 1 implement.

I don't think there are any non Branson backhoes that have subframes for Bransons but it's worth checking if you want one of those instead of a Branson backhoe for some reason. The prices I have seen for Branson backhoes seem reasonable for a backhoe that's engineered to fit on the tractor. The Branson backhoe subframe ties in around the loader mount even though there's already reinforcing bars from the rear axle to the loader mount on non backhoe Bransons.
 
   / Why Branson over Others ? #17  
"The front axle filler/vent is on the right side by the wheel. If you stop on a side slope it'll leak oil. My land is all slope. My dealer sent me an extension tube which lessens the problem but does not completely fix it."

So that's why it always looks a little wet there. Any chance you've got a part number for that or a photo?
 
   / Why Branson over Others ? #18  
Can't add a lot to what's been said except that I didn't know much about Branson until I was in the market. Very happy with mine. A little more tractor for a little less money.
 
   / Why Branson over Others ? #19  
Aqua, how do you iike the backfhoe ? Was it worth the investment ? Which model backhoe ?
Would buy Branson all over again ? How adaptable is Branson using other manufacturers implements ?
JD has contrived things, making ti difficult to use other brands. So you have to buy JD.
Your thoughts.
John

My backhoe is a BH76. It’s worthwhile for me for my needs and it does perform quite well. Dig out some rocks, tree stumps, etc. I do plan to get a ripper from Michigan Iron Equipment and convert my mechanical thumb to hydraulic this winter.

I would buy Branson all over again. It’s been an excellent value.

Like many other tractors with Skid Steer Quick Attach (SSQA) capability, it’s compatible so using other brands is not an issue. Stick with a tractor with SSQA capability and you’ll have access to far more implements than you could dream of.

My final thoughts, tractors should not be viewed as a vehicle that wears out after 10-15 years. Properly cared for, they can outlast your lifetime so with that in mind, I researched carefully and decided on my Branson.
 
   / Why Branson over Others ?
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#20  
The 3725 I bought cost less than the Kubota L3301 I was comparing it to and has many more features, such as independent PTO and linked throttle and HST. It's significantly quieter and smoother.

My Branson dealer ls a large one but they're 250 miles away. I do my own maintenance- it's no more difficult than doing it on a car or truck. My dealer's used to customers who are far away. They ship parts to me- so far just filters.

Negatives? The front axle filler/vent is on the right side by the wheel. If you stop on a side slope it'll leak oil. My land is all slope. My dealer sent me an extension tube which lessens the problem but does not completely fix it. Shifting transmission ranges can be a bit fiddly but it's easier than on the Kubotas I test drove. The diff lock pedal is on the wrong side on the open station 20/25 HST models. All of those are small things.

A tiny dealer would be a bit concerning though. Is there a larger one that's farther away?

Eric, The front axle leak at the filter vent, is that a problem on all Branson tractors or just your particular model ? I wouldn't be happy about that issue.

Maybe some of the others can comment on this issue. Does anyone else have the same problem ?
John
 

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