difficult roads, and mechanical concrete,

[Ritothebull]

If tires are a hazardous waste then how are they allowed to recycle them into other products including the mulch they're using now on children's playgrounds?

 

[oosik]

Strange - I've been in Environmental Health for almost 30 years now and have not heard that tires are considered hazardous waste. I know they are a very difficult product to handle and reprocess. I know the Municipality of Anchorage, Public Works Dept, tried mixing ground up tires with asphalt. Laid down a mile of 4-lane. Worked GREAT - excellent wet and snowy weather traction - exceptionally quiet - easy to work with - EXCEPTIONALLY expensive. The project never went anywhere.

 

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How would a guy cut out the sidewalls? Do you only cut out one side to facilitate filling with stone? What is the advantage over gabions? (sp?) (Wire crates).

We cut 10's of thousands on a landfill job with a machine like the one below. This one is cheap at $1k, they generally start at about 4k and have seen them advertised up to 40k. We shredded the tire carcasses for drainage in the bottom of the dump, sold the truck tire sidewalls to contractors to weight the plastic barrels you see on highway jobs and the car tire sidewalls were given to anyone that wanted them, generally farmers to weight trench silo covers. If you only need a hundred or so, the sides are not really hard to cut out with a good rugged, pointy, sharp knife. The hardest part is poking it through the sidewall. Once you get it started, you pull on the sidewall and the knife zips right around. I've cut a few dozen this way for tire gardens.

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[papachaz]

How would a guy cut out the sidewalls? Do you only cut out one side to facilitate filling with stone? What is the advantage over gabions? (sp?) (Wire crates).

We cut 10's of thousands on a landfill job with a machine like the one below. This one is cheap at $1k, they generally start at about 4k and have seen them advertised up to 40k. We shredded the tire carcasses for drainage in the bottom of the dump, sold the truck tire sidewalls to contractors to weight the plastic barrels you see on highway jobs and the car tire sidewalls were given to anyone that wanted them, generally farmers to weight trench silo covers. If you only need a hundred or so, the sides are not really hard to cut out with a good rugged, pointy, sharp knife. The hardest part is poking it through the sidewall. Once you get it started, you pull on the sidewall and the knife zips right around. I've cut a few dozen this way for tire gardens.

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but for someone doing it at home for their own driveway, couldn't you just use a sawzall? A good blade and it wouldn't take long at all. Also, if I'm doing this on my driveway or somewhere up in the woods on a hunting club, who's going to know other than the people who MIGHT drive by and see it, it could be done at night, just have the gravel delivered and dumped, stack up the tires out of site and wait until dark, you're going to have to spread the gravel into it with an FEL anyway

 

[fried1765]

Old tires are considered a hazardous waste product. They legally can稚 be used for the purpose stated.

Yup....they re a hazardous waste product....and that is why they are used as barge, and tugboat fenders?

 

[bcp]

If you are using it, it isn't waste.



Bruce

 

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but for someone doing it at home for their own driveway, couldn't you just use a sawzall? A good blade and it wouldn't take long at all. Also, if I'm doing this on my driveway or somewhere up in the woods on a hunting club, who's going to know other than the people who MIGHT drive by and see it, it could be done at night, just have the gravel delivered and dumped, stack up the tires out of site and wait until dark, you're going to have to spread the gravel into it with an FEL anyway

I did try a sawzall but found the good sharp knife easier and faster. As I mentioned, after you get it started, pull sideways on the bead to separate the rubber and the knife zips right around. At least that works for car and light truck tires. I don't know about heavy truck tires.

As for driveway stabilization, it should work but we always rolled out geotextile and dumped the gravel on that. In swampy areas, cobble stone or shot rock, gravel, geotextile and more gravel.
As far as after dark, I was night superintendent on a landfill job with a trout stream running around it. needless to say anytime we had to do anything that might involve the stream, we'd move in a light plant or two at 3 oclock in the morning, do what we had to and by the time the dayshift and inspectors came in, the stream was nice and crystal clear.(tee hee)!!! I always got a charge over all the hullabaloo they make over muddying the water. One good downpour puts more mud in the stream that our whole job would in the whole summer.


Smiley

 

[Ritothebull]

Yup....they re a hazardous waste product....and that is why they are used as barge, and tugboat fenders?

Don't forget the safety bumpers at the racetracks and tire swings.

 

[newbury]

I see post after post of someone asking how do I get rid of these rutts in my road, and what I was trying to do is show a possible idea on how to support the roadway, with waste product, that is free in most instances,

if it "recycles" tires then great, but the purpose of this post was not on how to recycle tires,

I have a slope that washes out, I think I will give this idea a try,

I've similar slopes that need stabilization. Early on I was thinking of stacked bags of concrete, but it's about 80' long and 10' high and based on numbers at Quikrete's web site (80 bags for a 10' long 2' high wall) I'd need about 1,000 bags!!
Now I'm thinking of tires filled with aircrete.

How would a guy cut out the sidewalls? Do you only cut out one side to facilitate filling with stone? What is the advantage over gabions? (sp?) (Wire crates).

I think for a DIY operation I'd just fill the tires. I see the advantage over gabions in that I have tires.

 

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I've similar slopes that need stabilization. Early on I was thinking of stacked bags of concrete, but it's about 80' long and 10' high and based on numbers at Quikrete's web site (80 bags for a 10' long 2' high wall) I'd need about 1,000 bags!!
Now I'm thinking of tires filled with aircrete.

I think for a DIY operation I'd just fill the tires. I see the advantage over gabions in that I have tires.

If you're looking to do it more economically than aircrete or stone filled gabions, you could consider soil cement. It's been used in road building just about forever. Just mix portland cement with existing soil in a mixer or tilled in with a rototiller. Does not work well with highly organic soils and doesn't stand heavy duty traffic well, but I built a swimming pool (reinforced with chicken wire) from it at my first Florida home in 1971 and it's still there. The soil there was almost completely sand so made it an easy job. A funny note on that pool, my wife is Canadian so we painted it as a giant Canadian flag and we found out a couple months later that pilots flying down the west coast of Florida to Lakeland airport, were using our pool as a landmark to make their turn to Lakeland.
Here's a link to some basics on soil cement. Soil Cement Paving for Driveways