8N Replacement

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tderrick

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L3901 , Ford 8N and 640
I am looking to retire my Ford 8N from the bush hogging duties of the farm. What model Kubota would be a good step up in power
over the 8N. I guess about 30 hp would be good, as the Ford was 20hp in '48

Thx for any help narrowing down the choices.

AJ
 
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About 30 hp would be good, as the Ford was 20hp in '48

Kubota L3301 or the de luxe Grand L3560.

L3301: https://www.kubotausa.com/docs/default-source/brochure-sheets/l2501.pdf?sfvrsn=34e9b1d_8

VIDEO: Kubota Standard L Series VS. Grand L Series - YouTube


INSIGHT: https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/buying-pricing-comparisons/397672-ford-8n-vs-kubota-l2501.html


L3301 and L2501 are essentially the same tractor. L3301 has increased power and mandatory Tier IV emission controls.
 
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The L has been earmarked for this segment both in size and capability...

We bought the L3800 and are pleased we the decision... this model has been superseded with the more recent enhanced emission package.

The L and the NAA Ford Jubilee sit side by side in the barn...
 
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Why do you say the Tier IV emission controls are mandatory?

thx
 
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Why do you say the Tier IV emission controls are mandatory?

During 1998 offroad engine regulations reducing emissions were structured as a 3-tiered progression. Offroad regulations use the metric system of units, with regulatory limits expressed in grams of pollutant per kWh. Examples of regulated applications include farm tractors, excavators, bulldozers, wheel loaders, backhoe loaders, road graders, diesel lawn tractors, logging equipment, portable generators, skid steer loaders and forklifts.

Each tier involved a phase-in (by engine power) over several years.
Tier 1 standards phased-in from 1996 to 2000.
Tier 2 standards phased-in from 2001 to 2006.
Tier 3 standards phased-in from 2006 to 2008 (Tier 3 standards applied only for engines from 37-560 kW).

Very stringent Tier 4 emission standards, phased-in from 2008 through 2015, require substantial reductions of Particulate Matter above 19 kW power output.


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Every tractor brand includes a model in the 2,600 pound to 2,900 pound (bare tractor) range with 100 cubic inch/24 horsepower engine. Tractors under 19 kW ( 19 KW = 25.4794-horsepower) are presently exempt from stringent Tier IV emission controls which abruptly increase a tractor's cost some $2,000 above the 19 kW power demarcation.

In Kubota's product line this is the model L2501.



L3301 and L2501 are essentially the same tractor. L3301 has increased power and mandatory Tier IV emission controls.
 
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Same. I had a L3200 (same as the L2501 with a few extra HP). I upgraded to a L4060. I upgraded more for the cab than the extra HP. & weight.

Weight is what makes a tractor work. Hp just defines how fast. That goes for pulling & lifting, less so for PTO work like mowing.
TractorData.com Ford 8N tractor information has an 8n at under 3,000lbs & 27hp. That matches up with a L2501 or L3301 pretty well. The modern machines have better loader & 3pt lift capacity. Not to mention manuverability with 4wd.

A L3560 isnt quite double the weight of an economy L. It also has a lot more bells & whistles than the economy machine.
 
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I purchased a nice used Kubota L2900 30hp diesel. No comparison in power, though my old Ford is a little tired. I figured a well cared for used tractor would likely outlast me and my uses for it and I don't want any part of emission systems or fancy electronic control systems. In that way the old Ford and the 20 year old Kubota are very similar!
 

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