Need advice on my kioti

[wagne223]

Do you have the throttle set at maximum rpm?
As far as the lever will move, aka wide open throttle.

For maximum performance, HST drives need pressure, flow and cooling. Achieved by running the engine at maximum rated rpm.

I can see having it bog in H but not in M
H is only for low load travel.

 

[K man]

I only use H range on the road or up and down in fields etc. When working the loader I usually use L with engine revs up. When I snow blow depending on how much snow there is, I would normally blow in M on light snow and L on deep heavy snow. The machine works beautifully until you start going up and down hills.

 

[Lockport]

The 25, 30 and 35 are the same frames with different engines. At least they were. Even the 35 is only suited for H on level ground with maybe a mower hanging off the back in transport. Definitely the "H" is for highway. There's nothing wrong with your tractor. I typically leave mine in "M" unless doing loader work.

 

[CalG]

running the maths

30 HP should pull a 3000 pound tractor straight up about 300 feet in a minute.

Half that for "efficiency factor", and you might be looking at a reasonable rate of climb.

Just a reality check. Next time you seem to be going slowly, bring a stop watch and mark your elevations. ;-)

 

[4570Man]

I understand that on gear drive that you have a H and L range with so many gears to choose from but HST you can only use the ranges and lucky mine has L M H most just have L H. I guess the more I use it the better I will understand the HST versus the Gear drives.

The backhoe is only 4 speed. It’s really only meant to move around. The backhoe is essentially an automatic transmission with manual push button shift.

 

[radios1]

running the maths

30 HP should pull a 3000 pound tractor straight up about 300 feet in a minute.

Half that for "efficiency factor", and you might be looking at a reasonable rate of climb.

Just a reality check. Next time you seem to be going slowly, bring a stop watch and mark your elevations. ;-)

that's what I was thinking too, there is a big loss of horsepower somewhere!.. it makes you wonder how that tractor could do any useful work, if it can't even climb a hill easily!..

 

[4570Man]

that's what I was thinking too, there is a big loss of horsepower somewhere!.. it makes you wonder how that tractor could do any useful work, if it can't even climb a hill easily!..

I’ve used a CK25 which is the most underpowered machine I’ve ever used and it still beats what the op is describing. Either his hills are more like mountain atv trails or there’s something wrong. Maybe something simple like a parking brake. I’ve never found a hill on the road I couldn’t climb in high range. As far as what’s a typical roadway grade there’s some pretty steep hills around my place.

 

[Coyote machine]

that's what I was thinking too, there is a big loss of horsepower somewhere!.. it makes you wonder how that tractor could do any useful work, if it can't even climb a hill easily!..

Once again you're completely WRONG. You seem to like to come on Kioti based threads and make ridiculous comments not based in reality. The OP makes a thread title, also not based in reality, and gives no proof of anything other than not understanding how to use his tractor effectively. A better thread title would have looked like this...' having difficulty going up steep hills- please advise'...
The OP's tractor can and I'm sure does do 'useful work' all the time. It's not done in H, though, as it's NOT intended/designed to do so in the wrong gear... This IS an example of operator error, at best.

To the OP, get it serviced and check the relief valve pressures, as already stated. And next time ask for help or advice rather than an inflammatory statement from someone who does not know his machine well enough to incorrectly label it 'useless'.

 

[mrutkaus]

That is completely normal, I remember when I first got my 1005 CK30HST that irritated me also, but it has absolutely nothing to do with anything, that's just the way it is geared; shift to 2nd. It's a workhorse, not a racehorse!

Mike

 

[CMV]

I agree it sounds normal if the hill is a decent incline. On flat road with just the loader and rear tires, starting from a stop in H, takes a little while to get up to full speed. It's not a race car. It's not even a minivan When bush hogging, I have one steep spot, and just the incline there really slows me down in M range.

This can be even more of a problem - esp in H range - if the operator just mashes the HST pedal to the floor expecting it will act like a car. It behaves exactly opposite and the pedal needs to be engaged lightly and then slowly pushed down incrementally further as speed and engine RPM pick up. It will "just go" if you mash it, just takes a long time to get up to speed that way and won't handle much of an incline that way.

Also agree with above re Radios1 - another fine demonstration of nothing useful to add to any discussion.....