Lets talk camera's.

[houstonscott]

I know I would. Is Canon going to come out with similar mirrorless and will the lenses be compatible? I need to read up on the technology. I am falling behind.

The short answer is yes, Canon has been slow to the party, they may be waiting to see what Nikon is going to offer, how it stacks up against Sony, and then see if they have go back to engineering or announce their pro mirrorless camera. This is Nikon’s first new mount since 1958, it’s a big deal. People are wondering because it so big they may have designed it to fit both full frame and an medium format. With Fugifilm getting ready to announce their gfx 50r, a medium formate rangefinder type mirrorless body similar in size weight and price and that is the future not full frame they would be ready to compete. The smaller medium format mirrorless camera (same or small lighter then current DSLR), might just leapfrog full frame... with new mounts your old glass will need adapters. Why would you invest in whole new Nikon system of full frame mirrorless glass, when you could move to medium format, same size weight, with a way bigger sensor, that is already at 100mp, with Fugifilm.

 

[RalphVa]

I think you壇 be shocked what a 24mp picture 6000x4000 looks like on a 5k monitor.

A conventional TV or computer screen only has, at most, about 1 MB in pixels. I've been doing a newsletter for 14 years. Can usually reduce a 2 to 12 or more MB picture down to about 100 kB, and it looks the same on the computer screen and actually not too bad if projected onto a wall.

Ralph

 

[houstonscott]

A conventional TV or computer screen only has, at most, about 1 MB in pixels. I've been doing a newsletter for 14 years. Can usually reduce a 2 to 12 or more MB picture down to about 100 kB, and it looks the same on the computer screen and actually not too bad if projected onto a wall.

Ralph

4K TV is 3840x2160 That’s over 8million. Many 3” displays and optical viewfinders exceed 4 million. Apple 5k 27” display is 5120x2880 or over 15 million.

 

[dragoneggs]

4K TV is 3840x2160 That’s over 8million. Many 3” displays and optical viewfinders exceed 4 million. Apple 5k 27” display is 5120x2880 or over 15 million.

I admit, I am a pixel guy and rode the wave of Canon bodies up to 40D. Now have a 4k 65in TV and that thing is incredible! It upscales pretty dang good too. Did some reading tonight on the mirrorless and I like the technology but they need to allow same EF and L lens use or I will never go there. Getting old.

 

[vvanders]

You can do that with the A7 today via metabones adapter. Problem is it's really, really bulky. Upside is you can use all your EF lenses.

Looked into it back before I got my 6D but just wasn't quite there yet. It's really a shame because Canon has a really great lens line-up.

 

[dragoneggs]

You can do that with the A7 today via metabones adapter. Problem is it's really, really bulky. Upside is you can use all your EF lenses.

Looked into it back before I got my 6D but just wasn't quite there yet. It's really a shame because Canon has a really great lens line-up.

Yeah, I just can't see turning over my nice lenses at this point in my life. Photography was my dream career but engineering got in the way (thank goodness). But it has been a serious hobby since the early 70s. Still have old processing chemicals and an enlarger and a few other relics from film printing.

 

[houstonscott]

I admit, I am a pixel guy and rode the wave of Canon bodies up to 40D. Now have a 4k 65in TV and that thing is incredible! It upscales pretty dang good too. Did some reading tonight on the mirrorless and I like the technology but they need to allow same EF and L lens use or I will never go there. Getting old.

When your gone all that remains are your photos, keep taking them....

 

[houstonscott]

Looks like Nikon Z announcement and camera was a faceplant. One card slot, and 15 minutes of video on one full battery charge.

 

[vvanders]

Yeah, I just can't see turning over my nice lenses at this point in my life. Photography was my dream career but engineering got in the way (thank goodness). But it has been a serious hobby since the early 70s. Still have old processing chemicals and an enlarger and a few other relics from film printing.

Yeah, Canon has some pretty unique glass with the TS-E, 35L and a few other gems. Really most people got for the latest and greatest camera bodies but lenses is where you should be making your investment.

We used to have a bunch of people at work who shot Canon and happily lent lenses all around. Can't tell you the number of people I converted to prime lenses after lending out something as simple as the 50/1.8.

 

[houstonscott]

Sounds like a great argument as we moved from film to digital. Problem is the digital camera sensor has reached 35mm, same size as a film camera. To get better images you need bigger sensors, which means bigger mounts. A good thing is lens with bigger mounts are far superior to smaller lens. So if you are set at staying at 35mm or full frame to keep you glass your being left behind.

 

[dragoneggs]

Sounds like a great argument as we moved from film to digital. Problem is the digital camera sensor has reached 35mm, same size as a film camera. To get better images you need bigger sensors, which means bigger mounts. A good thing is lens with bigger mounts are far superior to smaller lens. So if you are set at staying at 35mm or full frame to keep you glass your being left behind.

True enough, but it then means liquidating a lot of stuff... what a pain! Wonder what the value is of all my lenses?

 

[vvanders]

Eh, if you plan on printing on billboards then sure larger sensors make sense but even today's fullframe stuff has more than enough resolution. The reason mirrorless are moving to new mounts is that the focal plane is different when you don't need a mirror box, hence why the adapters are bulky.

Heck, the A7 still uses a fullframe sensor so they're the exact same size as your 5D/6D/1D/etc.

That said the while the whole "feeds and speeds" thing is fun to argue, better photos come from good composition, framing and being willing to "zoom with your feet". I've seen stunning work from a 450D and seen people with more money than sense put out marginal work.

 

[dragoneggs]

That said the while the whole "feeds and speeds" thing is fun to argue, better photos come from good composition, framing and being willing to "zoom with your feet". I've seen stunning work from a 450D and seen people with more money than sense put out marginal work.

Agreed. Good glass in the hands of someone who understands composition is the key to stunning photography.

 

[houstonscott]

True enough, but it then means liquidating a lot of stuff... what a pain! Wonder what the value is of all my lenses?

Might be a lot less as technology marches on...

 

[houstonscott]

Eh, if you plan on printing on billboards then sure larger sensors make sense but even today's fullframe stuff has more than enough resolution. The reason mirrorless are moving to new mounts is that the focal plane is different when you don't need a mirror box, hence why the adapters are bulky.

Heck, the A7 still uses a fullframe sensor so they're the exact same size as your 5D/6D/1D/etc.

That said the while the whole "feeds and speeds" thing is fun to argue, better photos come from good composition, framing and being willing to "zoom with your feet". I've seen stunning work from a 450D and seen people with more money than sense put out marginal work.

Sensor size is more important than pix counting, for many reasons.

 

[TractorGuy]

I still have my Canon AE1P with different lenses and filters I bought before my daughter was born 30 years ago. Never comes out of the bag.

Been using a point and shoot Canon SX150 IS for a few years and it takes pretty good photos. Took a pic of a Mississippi Kite in the top of a tree from 100+ feet out and about that many up the other day. Was able to crop out the attached shots of it.

Bought a used Nikon DT3200 DSLR the other day and it was crap so I resold it. The pictures I took with it were nowhere near the quality of my old point and shoot. It also required a big expensive lens to have any kind of zoom capability. My nerves are beyond the capability of using a camera that doesn't have image stabilization.

Just upgraded to a Canon SX230 HS point and shoot that I think will be a real upgrade from my SX150. Just for grins I pulled out the filters I had for my AE1P. They were all 49mm and I used an adapter ring to mount them on the AE1. Low and behold they fit in the lens cover ring of the SX230. Not sure I will ever play with them because I never did with the old camera but they will go in the new pouch I plan to buy for the new camera. I have a No1, 2, and 4 close up filter, a daylight, and polarizing filter. If I ever need to take shot on a bright day with too much glare I will try the polarizing filter for sure.

Here are a few shots from the Canon SX230.

 

[houstonscott]

Nice on a very very very small display. A lot has happened.... since.

 

[bunyip]

I use a monopod for heavy glass, drops out of the way quickly and very light, facilitates carrying as you can throw the lot over your shoulder.
Use a Nikon D800 and often coupled to a100-300 f4 while SWMBO uses a D300S with a 70-200 f2.8, about the same focal range with the different size sensors.

 

[UpstateSC_Papi]

Just bought Nikon D500 kit (kit lense is a nicely rated 16-80) last week. Haven't had much time to play with it though. Coming from a Nikon D90 the speed on the 500 is amazing. My daughter plays volleyball so hoping to expedite my learning curve as club ball starts in a month or so!

 

[dragoneggs]

Just bought Nikon D500 kit (kit lense is a nicely rated 16-80) last week. Haven't had much time to play with it though. Coming from a Nikon D90 the speed on the 500 is amazing. My daughter plays volleyball so hoping to expedite my learning curve as club ball starts in a month or so!

I need to get back to this wonderful hobby... been lazy not wanting to carry an arsenal of lenses and 'shooting' only with my iPhone X. I do want to trade my Canon 70-200is for a longer L prime. I am done with kids sports. It was a great lens but now I want to shoot birds as mine have flown the nest!