Container Weld Shop build -

Oldpath05 · Nov 12, 2018

("Interesting thing - try YOUR link AND the one above, change the little box from "1-pack" to other, and watch what the PRICE does - the 4x4 jacks go from $44.79 each (1-pack) to (2-pack) for $191.16 That's what FOUR of 'em costs if you buy the 1-pack, so that's what I did (4 of the "1-packs") gotta watch Amazon, this isn't the first time that came up...")

How about another interesting thing, I only read your first sentence then clicked the link you sent, I was 20 minutes trying to figure out those prices, went down threw the comments back on the prices, double check my math, what the heck I better go back to your post and see if you know what I'm missing. Then I read the rest of your post, well theres the answer just a few lines down, talk about a numbers game, I dont like those games, but I guess you figured out their game.

Rabbit trail............you ever hooked up a dishwasher?

BukitCase · Nov 12, 2018

"Rabbit trail............you ever hooked up a dishwasher?"

Yup... :laughing:

(See, I really CAN do "short and to the point")

Oldpath05 · Nov 12, 2018

Sharpest point I seen so far and quick to, you must be on break...........
I want to get the wife a dishwasher but not sure if it can fit. I have standard cupboards put in 30 years ago but since then I had 3/4" hardwood floor put down, then 3 years ago instead of refinishing the floor we put down 1/2" snap in fake hardwood flooring, adds up to 1-1/4" of added on flooring, just right for us short people.

Now I'm left with a little over 33" to bottom of counter top to floor, Now the .25 question, if I get that cupboard section out will this GE dishwasher (Model # GDT695SGJBB) at HD fit back down in that pocket that is left, have you ever done something like that after flooring is installed? I went to the specs. and it says 33-3/8" min but my flooring adds on a 1-1/4", in my mind it should be able to slide back down in that pocket to the original floor, also I granite counter top so that cant be cut, appreciate some advice when you have a chance no big hurry thanks.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/GE-Top-...nd-Steam-Prewash-45-dBA-GDT695SGJBB/207047102

BukitCase · Nov 12, 2018

OK, joke's over, you had the ONLY "short and sweet" you'll probly get this year :laughing:

Questions -
1 - do BOTH of your added floorings STOP right behind that toe kick board on the cabinets, or just the 1/2" one, or?
2 - How does your granite countertop fasten to the cabinets, and can that be undone in case the countertop needs to raise maybe 1/2" at most (only during the install)?

Clarification - most of the dishwashers I've installed (only 4 or 5) had little wheels at the back to roll into the space on, then the front typically has a piece of sheet metal with slotted screw holes across, so the metal can be adjusted flush with the floor - they usually have to push STRAIGHT IN, so yours might fit "back down in that pocket" ONCE IT'S IN PLACE, but might need a little "nudge" to get past the slightly short front opening -

IF that's the case, you might be able to loosen whatever holds the granite to the cabinets, then pad the lower front edge of the counter top ON BOTH SIDES OF THE DISHWASHER HOLE, (with some fairly long 2x4's) and GENTLY jack up the counter (in small bites, back and forth from one side to the other) til it's JUST HIGH ENOUGH to get the DW to slide in...

Then, as soon as the DW is in place the counter top can get lowered back down (Any time I have to deal with anything brittle like that, I always go REALLY SLOW and BABY STEPS, listening CAREFULLY for ANY sounds that shouldn't BE there, and STOP if I hear one.)

Reason for the 2 questions is due to non-standard floor, obviously - one other thing that MIGHT happen - if your added floor material extends a bit too far back into the opening, you might need to "trim" the extra flooring a bit so the DW can sit LEVEL - the two best ways I know to do that (neatly) are either one of the "oscillating multi-tool" type, or a "roto-zip" - the oscillating tool is easier to control, but if you want a clean straight line when cutting out just one layer of flooring, the rotozip works MUCH better with a guide for its base to ride against. It's basically a small diameter router, and has the same tendencies to "climb" if you don't use a guide...

There, THAT should re-establish my "blather rep" :laughing:

Oh, and don't "skim" this, there might actually be sumthin' IMPOTENT in there somewhere...

...Steve

GLyford · Nov 13, 2018

My granite went in bedded with silicone, so if his is like mine, I'd be very wary of cracking the counter.

I will also note that some dishwashers come with two part threaded plastic feet that screw in and out to adjust height, with a separate metal front plate that gets added on later. If you need another half inch or inch, look and see if you can completely unscrew the feet. Then wedge/shim the front after instead of using the feet. On mine, the next lower pieces at the front are the water and electric connections, but I don't remember how far down the motor/pump sticks down in the middle. Worth looking at a unit in the store before buying to figure all that out. If you have a good appliance store, as opposed to a box store, they may have seen it all before and know a few other tricks too.

This is also making the rather large assumption that you don't need a lot of adjustment to get level again...

Oldpath05 · Nov 13, 2018

1, Yes both added 3/4 and 1/2" stop at the cabinets, and the granite is like GLyford, silicone holding it in place. The only way to move it so it wont break is take it all apart by cutting the silicone, then if I do all that, most likely some parts of the cabinet are going to break, couple of the cabinet are already needing attention, it might end up like this, I'll get so frustrated on trying to patch stuff back together >>>>>>> Oh honey do you feel like taking my CC and go back to HD or somewhere and order some new $4000.00+ kitchen cabinets, she probably wont even bother to put her coat on.

As it is now I'd be lucky if I can get that one 2' cabinet out in 6 hr without chopping it all up. The only way I know how to get it out is cut the floor of the cabinet out then cut about 1-1/2" off the bottom with my oscillating saw, most of that is that particle board stuff, only the facing is solid wood. Then unscrew the front sides and it should slide out over the flooring, then the the $600.00 question that could end up in a $5000.00 dollar answer, if I only had a Delorean.

Oldpath05 · Nov 13, 2018

GLyford said:
My granite went in bedded with silicone, so if his is like mine, I'd be very wary of cracking the counter.

I will also note that some dishwashers come with two part threaded plastic feet that screw in and out to adjust height, with a separate metal front plate that gets added on later. If you need another half inch or inch, look and see if you can completely unscrew the feet. Then wedge/shim the front after instead of using the feet. On mine, the next lower pieces at the front are the water and electric connections, but I don't remember how far down the motor/pump sticks down in the middle. Worth looking at a unit in the store before buying to figure all that out. If you have a good appliance store, as opposed to a box store, they may have seen it all before and know a few other tricks too.

This is also making the rather large assumption that you don't need a lot of adjustment to get level again...

I went to Lowes yesterday just so I could look at the dishwasher's height and underneath at the adjustable feet and see whats what, but theirs are under mock up counters so I couldn't get a good look at whats underneath. So after that I stopped at local appliance store to see if I could get more intel but they wanted to celebrate veterans day yesterday to, maybe I'll have to try again, until then I'll try to get some intel on here, it's working already, I'm already getting nervous.

What I read and watched on youtube sofar is it's suppose to be level, well if there adjustable feet in back and on front, once in place how does one adjust the feet or if I took them out, get them back in, so's to get the washer level-ish?

Wonder if my wife would be just as happy with a frying pan for Christmas.......................

BukitCase · Nov 18, 2018

Not much to report on the house re-do, OR the container shop (remember THAT??!?

) Guess I shouldn't give myself TOO much time to de-stress after the decision to pay off the house and fire my insurance; might get USED to it, and got too much to do for THAT to happen...

Yesterday, the four 4x4 Shore adapters showed up - should work fine, then I'll need to fab similar ones for the TOPS of the 4x4's for temp roof support when I get around to the dry rot repair (likely late spring, NOT interested in a 8' hole thru the weather side of the house BEFORE then

) -

I looked for top supports that'd hold a pair of 2x12's vertically, didn't see any; still have some 3/16" wall 4x4 tube, cap a couple 12" pieces of that with 1/4x6 FB, then 2 10" pieces of the 1/4"x6 welded vertically so they're 3" apart and parallel, drill a few holes, slip 'em on top of the posts. That'll be just another winter project so they'll all be ready when I am

One (possibly) up side of me keeping so MANY projects rattling around in the noggin is that when I see a "bargain" I often already KNOW if it IS one ("a bargain is ONLY a bargain if you actually NEED it"

Case in point - I knew I wuz gonna need to trench for power/air to all 5 of the containers eventually, plus a 15' tall light/camera pole near the "good" neighbor's fence with power, cat5, possibly 12 volts (about a 50' run back to the shop, gives me a view of all but ONE of the container doors and shop that's NOT visible from the house), plus Mrs. Bukit would like 2-3 more water faucets various places in the yard - the odds of me wanting to do ALL those at the same time (time + $$ for rentals) are pretty close to NFW...

So when THIS showed up on CL

It wuz pretty much a done deal - said machine now resides in one of the containers, so will be available at MY discretion - plus, if/when I get tired of buryin' stuff, I should be able to get about what I paid fer it...

Doubt I'll have much to report in the next couple weeks, need to take care of house pay-off, new (NOT SAME) car insurance, get a few things ready for winter, etc... Steve

dragoneggs · Nov 18, 2018

BukitCase said:
Not much to report on the house re-do, OR the container shop (remember THAT??!? ) Guess I shouldn't give myself TOO much time to de-stress after the decision to pay off the house and fire my insurance; might get USED to it, and got too much to do for THAT to happen...

Yesterday, the four 4x4 Shore adapters showed up - should work fine, then I'll need to fab similar ones for the TOPS of the 4x4's for temp roof support when I get around to the dry rot repair (likely late spring, NOT interested in a 8' hole thru the weather side of the house BEFORE then ) -

I looked for top supports that'd hold a pair of 2x12's vertically, didn't see any; still have some 3/16" wall 4x4 tube, cap a couple 12" pieces of that with 1/4x6 FB, then 2 10" pieces of the 1/4"x6 welded vertically so they're 3" apart and parallel, drill a few holes, slip 'em on top of the posts. That'll be just another winter project so they'll all be ready when I am

One (possibly) up side of me keeping so MANY projects rattling around in the noggin is that when I see a "bargain" I often already KNOW if it IS one ("a bargain is ONLY a bargain if you actually NEED it"

Case in point - I knew I wuz gonna need to trench for power/air to all 5 of the containers eventually, plus a 15' tall light/camera pole near the "good" neighbor's fence with power, cat5, possibly 12 volts (about a 50' run back to the shop, gives me a view of all but ONE of the container doors and shop that's NOT visible from the house), plus Mrs. Bukit would like 2-3 more water faucets various places in the yard - the odds of me wanting to do ALL those at the same time (time + $$ for rentals) are pretty close to NFW...

So when THIS showed up on CL
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It wuz pretty much a done deal - said machine now resides in one of the containers, so will be available at MY discretion - plus, if/when I get tired of buryin' stuff, I should be able to get about what I paid fer it...

Doubt I'll have much to report in the next couple weeks, need to take care of house pay-off, new (NOT SAME) car insurance, get a few things ready for winter, etc... Steve

Great status report! But all the way to Lebanon to get that trencher? Holy moly! :laughing:

BukitCase · Nov 18, 2018

Yup, at least 12-1/2 miles each way; grueling, I tell ya

Not as easy to run as a rider, but several places I need to trench are a bit too close-coupled for a bigger machine - and NEITHER is as much of a PITA as a "pick-n-shove-it"

...Steve