Any M7040 Issues

[AllDodge]

Thanks, and not in a hurry, actually don't "need" a tractor but do want one. Don't like using my buddy's tractor, rather use my own.

Do like the cab 7040 that needs tires and think it would be a good one. Figure after adding tires, filling rears with liquid, I'm close to the new open tractor. If it had good tires I would be much closer to doing it.

Like the older ones because no regen with it. If the new tractors are anything like my F3990, it will regen about every 10 to 12 hours. The F3990 is not much of an issue because when its running, its wide open, but most (including me) don't run a tractor at wide open.

 

[AllDodge]

Maybe someone clear something up for me. I have a backhoe with hydraulic shuttle shift. I can stop the machine in gear and the motor doesn't die or labor. I'm on the tractor in town and the F/R shifter is on the steering column but if I tried to stop the tractor without pushing in on the clutch, the engine was getting loaded up and would die if I didn't push the clutch in

Why is Hydro shuttle better then sync and what's the difference?

 

[big bubba]

the hydro shuttle vs synchro is simple. either one performs the same task of going F/R w/o having to shift gears. the hydro on the M series operates without having to use clutch to engage F/R. The synchro version requires clutch depression to shift from F/R, etc. (w/o shifting gears) someone else can probably explain it in more simple terms.
good luck. maybe the dealer would warranty that cab M7040

in addition: the hydro shuttle consists of a wet clutch pack, apparently more long lived than the conventional single dry clutch of the shuttle shift.

 

[AllDodge]

The synchro version requires clutch depression to shift from F/R, etc. (w/o shifting gears)

Who knows, maybe the on in town was a sync and not a hydro because I had to depress the clutch, because I could not stop it without it dying

 

[Ortimber]

The shifter (F/R lever) on the steering column is only used to go forward, reverse, or neutral. These tractors do not have a torque converter like some construction machines have. In other words, you have to push the clutch in to stop unless you are in neutral either thru the F/R lever or the gearbox. The F/R lever does not require the use of the foot clutch.

 

[big bubba]

"The F/R lever does not require the use of the foot clutch" Ortimber

correct, for the hydro shuttle but the shuttle shift version (accomplishing the same thing) requires clutch depression for F/R on column

 

[AllDodge]

Not real sure I have it, but if you have to depress the clutch if its in gear to stop, then its close to the same as sync. So you can be rolling forward and shift to reverse without issue? I'm thinking there could be an issue. Maybe the plus is you can be rolling forward and shift to neutral without the clutch, but to change direction you need to ease out on the clutch

 

[big bubba]

are you familiar with std gear operation on a tractor, aside from the reverser?

 

[Farmer495]

"hydraulic shuttle" while clutchless operation, is not a torque converter, you still have to disengage the shuttle (lever or clutch pedal) to STOP the tractor.

 

[flashpuppy]

FWIW, I just picked up an M7040 with cab, MFWD and loader with just under 1k hours. Couldn’t be any more pleased with it and am super happy I went this way instead of green or others I looked at.

 

[AllDodge]

OK, think I get it, a 8 speed trans is actually a 4 speed and only the shift changes direction. No wonder folks like 6 (12) speed more then a 4

 

[Bigpuddie]

8 spd is a 4 spd with High and low range

 

[sixdogs]

The 8 speed has a wide enough range of speeds that it covers most applications needed today. The 12 speed is nicer if you might be spreading fertilizer or spraying at a specific speed not covered by the 8 speeds. I have not needed any more than my 8 speeds. That said, I would take a 12 speed if it was available but in reality would likely not use those extra speeds any more than occasionally.

 

[deserteagle71]

Not real sure I have it, but if you have to depress the clutch if its in gear to stop, then its close to the same as sync. So you can be rolling forward and shift to reverse without issue? I'm thinking there could be an issue. Maybe the plus is you can be rolling forward and shift to neutral without the clutch, but to change direction you need to ease out on the clutch

I believe my M7060 is the same tranny-wise as a M7040. When I am doing loader work (so usually in 1st or 2nd gear) I do not use the clutch when shifting from forward to reverse. The tranny is designed to work that way. Here's a snip from my owner's manual:

Note that it states that the tractor must be moving slowly when reversing directions without using the clutch. I guess the term "slowly" is open to interpretation; I never tried it at speed - and don't intend to!

 

[Farmer495]

8 speed is 8 forward and 8 reverse.

I farm with 8 speed tractors, all the work whether, loader, drawbar, 3pt, PTO etc all gets done just fine.

Not so much how many gears you have, but what speeds each of the gears does at PTO RPM.

 

[Turbys_1700]

My T4.75 12 speed has 3 ranges and 4 gears.

In range 3 the top speeds are 12, 16, 20, and 24 MPH.

2nd range is used the majority of the time.

I would assume that other manufacturers have similar set up's with their 12 speeds but I am not certain.

This is the first tractor I've used to change gears like a car when on the road.

 

[AllDodge]

OK thanks, think I have it

 

[sixdogs]

My T4.75 12 speed has 3 ranges and 4 gears.

In range 3 the top speeds are 12, 16, 20, and 24 MPH.

2nd range is used the majority of the time.

I would assume that other manufacturers have similar set up's with their 12 speeds but I am not certain.

This is the first tractor I've used to change gears like a car when on the road.

24 MPH on the highway must be a white knuckle ride. Have you gone that fast and what did it feel like?

 

[Bigpuddie]

24 MPH on the highway must be a white knuckle ride. Have you gone that fast and what did it feel like?

My MF runs 25 mph...drives and rides very nice

 

[Turbys_1700]

24 MPH on the highway must be a white knuckle ride. Have you gone that fast and what did it feel like?

No issues at all...
I guess the engineers calculate power to weight ratios coupled with wheel base etc...
That speed is with a 3 point 1500# 10 foot bush hog attached...
It makes transport to the other farm very quick...