Replacing sodium dawn to dusk with led

[jcummins]

Well...this evening it appears my dawn to dusk light has stopped working. I do not like the yellowish hue it put out and have been tempted to replace before now with an led one. Now, the decision is forced upon me.

Looks like many options, but I want a light designed for the purpose, not a screw in bulb type.. Maybe something like this I see on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/LED-Dusk-Dawn-Light-Brightest/dp/B01BUNQS2O

What I'm not sure of, what lumens I need. The sodium light, if it didn't have that hue, covered decently, but I'd like a bit better coverage if possible. Not sure how to weight differences in my options.

Anyone here gone through this, and can recommend something?

 

[MNBobcat]

Go with this:

https://www.superiorlighting.com/80...ghtest-dusk-to-dawn-light-on-the-market-span/

 

[jcummins]

That Amazon light is fulfilled by Superior Lighting...it looks the same, except 70w versus 80w, for $20 less dollars.

Have you first hand experience with that light? It looks like the right thing.

ON EDIT....Superior has the Amazon light on their webpage...at the same price. For $20 more, this is probably what I'll do.

 

[RNeumann]

Figure out what you have now and look it up! The sodium bulbs have a lumen rating and obviously the LEDs do to. Formulas for outdoor lighting are far more vague then the indoor lighting formulas. And since you know what worked before it’s easier to just compare old to new.

RAB is the go to spec for commercial outdoor lighting. You pay for it but if your time has a high value it may be worth the up front cost knowing you may never have to deal with it again in your lifetime. Lithonia is another brand that is a common commercial spec.

 

[mddorange]

LED area lights are the ONLY way to go. I have had mine for 3 years now. Not only does it come on instantly but it has that bright daylight color. It is great that with those benefits, it uses less power and last much longer also.

 

[dragoneggs]

jc, looks like you are on the right track. I have been moving to LED on all my lighting... from indoor incandescent replacements to shop flourescent replacements, to halogen replacements for my saltwater reef aquarium. In every case, the move to LED has been a win. The efficiency is impressive!

 

[Diggin It]

, but I'd like a bit better coverage if possible. Not sure how to weight differences in my options.

Anyone here gone through this, and can recommend something?

I'd recommend considering adding a second one if you have a place to do it. More than double your current coverage for likely less than half the current used.

I've seen things that look more like municipal streetlights that mount on poles for a couple of hundred dollars or less that will light a wide area.

ALL of my outdoor lighting combined (other than the landscape lights) uses less than 100 watts and that includes one 26W CFL that hasn't died yet.

 

[LD1]

Typical for an outdoor "security" light around here is a 100w HPS light,

And those are right around 10k lumens. (ranges depending on brand from 9000-10000)

So the "cost" savings with LED isnt very significant. Which is why HPS is still used most of the time for street lamps and rural "security" lights.

But I'd say stick with at least 10k lumens if thats what you got now.

 

[Pirate]

What LD says. I have HPS around the house. I like LED and wanted to replace them with LED but after research, the coverage, Lumens, and color temperature just could not match what I get from HPS. I use LED motions around the shed/barn for instant lighting and brighter coverage.

 

[Diggin It]

Urine Yellow lights belong on tow trucks, not yard light poles. I'll stick with my daylight CFLs and LEDs.

 

[jcummins]

WELL.....the 80w one from superior lighting appears to be gone from their webpage, and it is the one I wanted to buy.

I hesitated, because I went to the barn to check breakers there last night, in case that's what it was and not the light, and the light came on on my short drive to the barn. Just a bit later it was flickering, then came on solid, and working ever sense. On now. It's on it's way out and I still will replace.

But thru research, I really liked the 10,000 lumen of the one that appears to now be gone.

 

[jcummins]

WELL AGAIN ...... started searching for a dawn to dusk led 10,000 lumen....and be darn if the Superior lighting one didn't come up at Amazon....ONE in stock. So I ordered. Hope it was taken off the market because of reliable issues......we'll see.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I don't like the harsh white light of LED lighting. I'm curious how long all this consumer LED lighting will last?

Kind of off topic. I was seeing a thing on RFI from LED auxiliary vehicle lighting, that was causing trouble with mobile radios. Why would LED lighting require drivers that work in the RF spectrum?

 

[jcummins]

I don't like the harsh white light of LED lighting. I'm curious how long all this consumer LED lighting will last?

Kind of off topic. I was seeing a thing on RFI from LED auxiliary vehicleligh

Something to that. I know led light in garage door opener can cause issues.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I know, you can hear the LED walk/don't walk light on an AM radio, but I don't know what part of the circuit is making the noise.

 

[AndyMA]

I don't like the harsh white light of LED lighting. I'm curious how long all this consumer LED lighting will last?

Kind of off topic. I was seeing a thing on RFI from LED auxiliary vehicle lighting, that was causing trouble with mobile radios. Why would LED lighting require drivers that work in the RF spectrum?

LEDs are available with many color temperatures.The early ones were the harsh blue white ones. Regarding the RF, some leds uses unshielded high frequency switching power supplies. LEDS run on low voltage DC, Grid is usually 120 or 240 AC

Andy

 

[MNBobcat]

I have the 80w from superior and it痴 much better than the old sodium lights. You will love it

 

[Industrial Toys]

The switching supply makes sense. But why does it have to be so noisy?

When you get old, you can't have enough light. I mean, like stadium lighting! So you might as well just have enough light to prevent stumbling around in the dark, but it won't be enough to work on anything.

I was given a Falcon Light, I think by Cooper Lighting. I had to repair it, but replaced some quartz lights with it. It is used for Civic Monuments and Flags. Quite Amazing!

 

[dragoneggs]

I am a little surprised with those that want to hang on to the old tech heat producing lights vs. moving to LEDs. I admit I don't have experience with the particular ones in question, but the high wattage LED bank lighting I have used is impressive. The heat produced means less energy is being converted to light.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I'm just leery about spending money on junk that won't last. No economy in that. Just your hard earned money converted to garbage. Like the LED X-MAs lights I thought I bought for the last time. Gradually, went dimmer, and dimmer, then all failed!