Dangerous times even in small town

   / Dangerous times even in small town #292  
I'm constantly running back and forth from the house to my field, where my garden, livestock, firewood, et al are kept. To dig through my pockets every time that I get into the truck- several dozen times per day, often with heavy gloves on- gets tedious. To say nothing about my other key ring which has house key, padlock keys, half dozen keys for work...
At the end of the day they hang on a nail on the wall.

I solved the padlock key problem with a dozen all keyed the same. One key for them on my pocket ring. One on each of the tractor keys. Took care of a lot of weight in my pockets.

RSKY
 
   / Dangerous times even in small town #293  
That's amazing...
"to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property" And..."the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means".
Because someone walking away from you unarmed carrying your stolen apple who refuses to stop (perp may be deaf!) can legally be killed.

According to my Concealed Carry instructor, and he usually has a retired Commonwealth Attorney with him, in Kentucky you can shoot somebody dead if they are trying to burn a building on your property. Doesn't matter the worth of the building, if it is being used or abandoned. All that matters is that the shooter's name is on the deed. This has to do with the Tobacco War at the turn of the last century. Families would work every day for fourteen months to put a tobacco crop in a barn and somebody would burn it. Therefor the laws were written and never changed. The way he explained it if somebody was trying to burn your neighbor's home with six pregnant woman and twenty small children inside you were supposed to try to stop them without shooting. But if they were trying to burn an outhouse that hadn't been used in twenty years on YOUR property, property that had your name on the deed, you could shoot them dead with no consequences. Don't know if this is true but it was told in the class with a Deputy Sherriff teaching.

The individual states have some strange laws.

RSKY
 
   / Dangerous times even in small town #294  
I'm guessing not a lot of firebugs where you are?
 
   / Dangerous times even in small town #295  
I solved the padlock key problem with a dozen all keyed the same. One key for them on my pocket ring. One on each of the tractor keys. Took care of a lot of weight in my pockets.

RSKY

I also went that route about ten years ago, got tired of the huge key rings hanging from my belt and sorting through the keys to find the right one for the lock I was wanting to open. Same for the house, all four doors use the same key. My ring has three keys on it, one for the truck, one for the house and one for all the locks at the farm.
 
   / Dangerous times even in small town #296  
I have a friend that had to deal with multiple properties of his, his father, his aunt, some rentals, etc.... he bought locksets and had them keyed individually, AND a master key. So he only had to carry one key, it would open all the properties, but none of the individual property keys could open any other but its own. Worked really well. :thumbsup:
 
   / Dangerous times even in small town #297  
My various rings carry my house key, key to my parent's house, 3 padlock keys, one for my property and two for my parent's; key for their greenhouse and other outbuildings; PO box key, company office key, company satelite office key, company camp key, master key for company locks, key for the locks which the master key doesnt work (too many floating around) plus the dog'license and rabies tags.
Needless to say that I don't carry them in my pocket for very long.
Key for each truck is on a separate ring as I don't like listening to a,mass of keys slapping against the steering column.

As stated before, I agree with the poster who says that it's ridiculous to keep every thing locked up because some people are theives.
 
   / Dangerous times even in small town
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#298  
This is one of the reasons I question CC. It CAN be reassuring to be locked and loaded..but when you look at encounters and stats and such you have to wonder if it really does any good. VS the risk of other issues (legal, gun being stolen, etc).

Like carrying one in the chamber vs having to rack the slide. Look how many 'accidental' discharges there are, people shooting themselves, their cars/car seats, etc. That seems to out number the times I've heard/read that there wasn't time to rack a slide.

Again, practice practice practice till it's second nature. Carry only ONE gun so you're not having to think 'ok, which gun do I have today?' - if you always have to rack the slid to shoot then you just do it like second natore.

If being ambushed I don't think it will matter either way. If you can't draw the weapon, it won't matter either way. If all you have to do is brandish to scare them off, it won't matter either way. It's .3 second to rack a slide, if that (with practice),.
You should never draw your weapon without the intention to fire if necessary. Brandishing a weapon will incite the perp to shoot your even if his only intention was robbery.

The only way to carry is with a round in the chamber and safety on. I quit carrying my Glock since it only has the trigger safety. Inadvertently placing the finger on the trigger when unholstering / holstering can cause accidental discharge. I now prefer a double action pistol with a safety/decocker and round in the chamber that I can carry more safely. I also like a double action that I can pull the trigger a second time on a misfire prior to trying to eject the round. Most of the time a second firing pin strike will fire the round. You will be pulling the trigger multiple times anyway so the second time will likely be when you realize the first time it didn't fire. Then you can rack the slide and get a new round in the chamber. Sure this takes a bit of time, but hopefully (and you should be) behind some cover before firing the first time.
 
   / Dangerous times even in small town #299  
The only way to carry is with a round in the chamber and safety on. I quit carrying my Glock since it only has the trigger safety. Inadvertently placing the finger on the trigger when unholstering / holstering can cause accidental discharge. I now prefer a double action pistol with a safety/decocker and round in the chamber that I can carry more safely. I also like a double action that I can pull the trigger a second time on a misfire prior to trying to eject the round. Most of the time a second firing pin strike will fire the round. You will be pulling the trigger multiple times anyway so the second time will likely be when you realize the first time it didn't fire. Then you can rack the slide and get a new round in the chamber. Sure this takes a bit of time, but hopefully (and you should be) behind some cover before firing the first time.

The ultimate safety with any gun is your finger.

Glock isn't my favorite model, but no different than most Sigs, Berettas or Springfields (or my CZ PO1 Omega). Keep your finger off the trigger until your ready to shoot.

Personally, I don't like safety's.
 
   / Dangerous times even in small town #300  
I agree. Safeties are different on every weapon. Some are just miserable. Kind of defeats the purpose of a handgun if you need to fumble with the safety or get your reading glasses (and maybe a flashlight) so you can see which position it's in. I would vote for a pin like on a handgrenade and make it a universal system! Keep spare pins in your pocket to make it safe again.
 

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