Update on RX6010 with low hours motor failure

[woolyAcres]

We know nothing about the tractor in this thread except the little bit the OP shared early on.

That's because he wouldn't come back to a thread where he was labelled a troll and slammed for venting a bit! If we had avoided treating him like that he might still be here and we might have the details we all wanted. That's my point.

If there is something to be learned here it's that companies want to survive too, and those who think that a company OWES the consumer something past warranty because of a supposed low hour failure are WRONG. If the OP had a bazillion hours on his tractor and it broke just before warranty expiration would the manufacture tell him he's out of luck because of the high miles? NO. They would be on the hook unless there was abuse or lack of routine maintenance.

We all know this already. We missed out on learning what can cause a Kioti motor to fail at <500 hours. Perhaps, likely even, it's lack of maintenance, but we still don't know because we never got the details.

lets move on, eh guys?:thumbsup:

I'm on board with this. It's clear there's a lot of knowledge and good will in the Kioti group but it got overshadowed early on in this thread. I just hope the next time a new poster comes round, as Kioti owners, as members of TBN, as gentleman we don't ride them off so quickly.

 

[coobie]

I'm getting the feeling you don't read what I write, you just respond and keep trying to shoe away anyone who doesn't agree with you on everything. I do care. I care about what caused this guy's problem and I care about the next new poster that comes along. I don't want that person written and riden off before all involved have a chance to learn something useful from each other.

I get exactly what you write.Could care less if you agree or not.Pretty sad you can,t answer questions I write.If you want to CODDLE everyone who has issues (some legit/maybe some not) with there tractors you go right ahead.That is your right..To many phony kioti tractor issues as of late for me to bite on.You have at it.

 

[Trillium Farm]

It's the "right" thing to do. It's not a matter of something wearing out. either normally or prematurely, but something critical and expensive breaking when it simply shouldn't.
If you hit a bump in your pickup a year or two after warranty and the entire thing broke in two, don't you think the manufacturer is obligated to do something?

Legally no, but morally they should at least looking into this. Kioti has looked into this and has determined that it wasn't their fault, period. The OP thinks that because of the low hours it ought to be covered yet we know NOTHING about the problem only his conjectures

 

[ritcheyvs]

IMO, personal attacks have no place on this forum. And there have already been too many of them.

 

[Trillium Farm]

Yes, it's true you have to draw a line somewhere. We get that.

On the other hand, isn't it odd that if it broke with 10,000 hours on it at 3 years and 364 days Kioti would say "It's manufacturer's problem, we'll fix" but at 400 hours (and 2 days older than the 10,000hr machine) it's an owner problem.Yep, you have to draw a line somewhere, I get that, but it sucks for OP if he wasn't responsible and it was a random low hour manufacturer defect. Some would even say not fair.

Here again, you assume that the OP did NOTHING Wrong! It appears that Kioti did an assessment and judged it NOT to be a manufacturing defect and in view of the low hours probably an operator mistake so it refused the claim. Now we all know that Kioti is a serious company with good products and reputation so I think that if there was even a hint of manufacturing defect they would have come through, not so much for the warranty factor, but with the view to eliminate this flaw from future units. There is the answer!

 

[Trillium Farm]

That's because he wouldn't come back to a thread where he was labelled a troll and slammed for venting a bit! If we had avoided treating him like that he might still be here and we might have the details we all wanted. That's my point.

No Wooly he was asked pointedly many many times to describe the problem and he refused. He came here either to bash the company or to find a shoulder to cry on or for us to show him a way to circumvent the warranty (contract). All he cares is that in HIS mind he should not be responsible.

 

[ruffdog]

IMO, personal attacks have no place on this forum. And there have already been too many of them.

Lots and lots of assumptions too. :confused2:

 

[ch1ch2]

Does Kioti make their own engines?

It seems to me most of the big guys use engines manufactured by some other company.

If that is the case, is this same engine in other brands of tractors?

 

[CobyRupert]

Yes, it's true you have to draw a line somewhere. We get that.

On the other hand, isn't it odd that if it broke with 10,000 hours on it at 3 years and 364 days Kioti would say "It's manufacturer's problem, we'll fix" but at 400 hours (and 2 days older than the 10,000hr machine) it's an owner problem.

Yep, you have to draw a line somewhere, I get that, but it sucks for OP if he wasn't responsible and it was a random low hour manufacturer defect. Some would even say not fair.

Here again, you assume that the OP did NOTHING Wrong! It appears that Kioti did an assessment and judged it NOT to be a manufacturing defect and in view of the low hours probably an operator mistake so it refused the claim. Now we all know that Kioti is a serious company with good products and reputation so I think that if there was even a hint of manufacturing defect they would have come through, not so much for the warranty factor, but with the view to eliminate this flaw from future units. There is the answer!

Now you're just making stuff up.

I didn't assume OP did nothing wrong. I've attached my unedited statement above. The bold lettering was originally there too.

You have no basis for saying Kioti probably refused warrantee claim because of operator error. We do know warrantee was expired.

I was commenting more on the nature (inequity) of warrantees based on dates instead of usage. Like if you bought a TV then take it out of the box a year later to find it doesn't work (i.e. you paid money for a falsely advertised product (i.e. a working TV)). Is it fair manufacturer can say: "Too bad."? :confused3: I'm not asking if it's legal, or about contract law, or if you knowingly entered into the conditions of purchase, warrantee, etc... Simply: Is it fair?

 

[4570Man]

I was commenting more on the nature (inequity) of warrantees based on dates instead of usage. Like if you bought a TV then take it out of the box a year later to find it doesn't work (i.e. you paid money for a falsely advertised product (i.e. a working TV)). Is it fair manufacturer can say: "Too bad."? :confused3: I'm not asking if it's legal, or about contract law, or if you knowingly entered into the conditions of purchase, warrantee, etc... Simply: Is it fair?

Yep, it’s too bad. You should have checked it a year ago. But that’s not what happened anyway. It’s more like you bought the TV 2 years ago with a year warranty, watched 300 movies and now it’s dead after you accidentally plugged it into a 220 volt outlet. Now if you said you plugged your barely used tv into a 220 outlet you’re going to receive zero sympathy and zero anything else because it’s obviously your fault. So now your just going to say you plugged your nearly brand new TV in an it doesn’t do anything and the manufacturer is a jerk and if it was a different brand TV that manufacturer would most definitely give you a new one. Once asked for details you’ll tell us it’s a year out of warranty but that’s it.