New Branson 2515

[Branson Bob]

On the larger ag tractors radials are quite common.
We have to air them up higher then optimum traction to slow down the sidehill rolling.

Happy New Year Lou.

Just so I understand, are you saying that radials should have good PSI ("higher than optimum")to prevent sidewall sagging?

Would "optimum traction" be a lower PSI so there is more tread area on the ground?

Thanks.

 

[LouNY]

Happy New Year Lou.

Just so I understand, are you saying that radials should have good PSI ("higher than optimum")to prevent sidewall sagging?

Would "optimum traction" be a lower PSI so there is more tread area on the ground?

Thanks.

Yes, to get the best use of the radial on an ag tractor using the tire charts from the manufacture for the axle loadings they get a nice long foot print on the ground,
the problem occurs when you get to working on a steep side hill is that the tire will "roll" under on the downhill side and be putting some of the start of the sidewalls right into the stubble as well as providing a less then optimal ride feel.
When it starts to squirm sideways it starts to bring on the pucker factor :thumbsdown:
As an example as I recall from a few years ago while checking tire pressures and loading we calculated that 18 psi was the ideal recommended pressure and it did give excellent traction and ride quality on the flatter fields and moderate hills but when we are going onto the steeper field and especially with any off camber turns we run them at 25-28 psi.
The ride quality isn't as good and the traction is a bit less, but the stability is much better.
Lou

 

[Texasmark]

On the larger ag tractors radials are quite common.
We have to air them up higher then optimum traction to slow down the sidehill rolling.

There is a Utube video of a gal (9 or 10) in Europe running a tomato worm green thing of several hundred hp. Shows her "day".... the tractor, like the Zetor 3200 I think is the number, has a built in compressor for airing the tires..process goes: High pressure in the radials for road use to field.....air is reduced significantly helping to provide flotation and traction in soft fields for working...and that 5-6 bottom or thereabouts moldboard flip (bidirectional) plow is something to be seen too. Upon completing field work, tires are aired back up for trip back home. If you are tired of looking at grumpy old guys in their bib overalls, a very refreshing video. Wink!

 

[Branson Bob]

There is a Utube video of a gal (9 or 10) in Europe running a tomato worm green thing of several hundred hp. Shows her "day".... the tractor, like the Zetor 3200 I think is the number, has a built in compressor for airing the tires..process goes: High pressure in the radials for road use to field.....air is reduced significantly helping to provide flotation and traction in soft fields for working...and that 5-6 bottom or thereabouts moldboard flip (bidirectional) plow is something to be seen too. Upon completing field work, tires are aired back up for trip back home. If you are tired of looking at grumpy old guys in their bib overalls, a very refreshing video. Wink!

Geez Mark... the one time a link would be really great...

 

[Texasmark]

Geez Mark... the one time a link would be really great...

Yes it would and I apologize. Address was posted by a YTer on the Yesterday's Tractors Forum and as you would expect, it got a lot of responses. I don't remember where it was.

 

[Texasmark]

Yes, to get the best use of the radial on an ag tractor using the tire charts from the manufacture for the axle loadings they get a nice long foot print on the ground,
the problem occurs when you get to working on a steep side hill is that the tire will "roll" under on the downhill side and be putting some of the start of the sidewalls right into the stubble as well as providing a less then optimal ride feel.
When it starts to squirm sideways it starts to bring on the pucker factor :thumbsdown:
As an example as I recall from a few years ago while checking tire pressures and loading we calculated that 18 psi was the ideal recommended pressure and it did give excellent traction and ride quality on the flatter fields and moderate hills but when we are going onto the steeper field and especially with any off camber turns we run them at 25-28 psi.
The ride quality isn't as good and the traction is a bit less, but the stability is much better.
Lou

That has certainly not been the case with my 2400. The rears are 12x16.5, 6 ply R4s from the factory with a 3200+# rating per tire at 35 psi.....that's 6400+# for a tractor that weighs 1800# total..... You can't lower the air pressure enough to get a reasonable ride because the stiff sidewalls just fall away from the rims which also prevents you from considering filling the tires for ballast. So I go to a set of 33x12.5x16.5 4 ply thinking I will gain a softer sidewall.......wrong!!!!!

 

[Texasmark]

For those wondering if Branson would still build tractors after being bought by Tym. The answer is Yes. They are still building tractors and going strong!

Here is the newly launched tractor. It's a Branson 2515 both shuttle and hydro. They call it a large frame compact tractor since it has the frame of the 15 series with a de-rated engine. But since it's a 24hp @2200 rpms, it won't have all the DPF shenanigans.

Being a large frame and no DPF, should be a really good seller.

Here is some pictures and the comparison chart, which is a bit hard to see.

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Would you give us the name-www address of a dealer down there? I looked around on Google quacking duck and found nothing on the model. May not be for the US market because of emission requirements. Best I could see the chart, making 25 hp at 2200 rpm, 1.7L where my 2400 makes 24 at 1.1L at 2600 is liken to my Fords running low rpms for reducing wear and high cubes for better torque for when the going gets rough.

 

[ptsg]

This tractor is actually only for the US market. I've got this info from Facebook.

The fact that it doesn't have DPF is because it's under 26HP. Which is the HP limit for the DPF requirements.

The dealer I've got this info is: Anderson Tractor Sales

They had some sort of launch meeting for this tractor.

 

[Texasmark]

This tractor is actually only for the US market. I've got this info from Facebook.

The fact that it doesn't have DPF is because it's under 26HP. Which is the HP limit for the DPF requirements.

The dealer I've got this info is: Anderson Tractor Sales

They had some sort of launch meeting for this tractor.

Thanks I'll check it out.

 

[ptsg]

Looks like it was the Branson Tractors' 2019 National Dealer Meeting where they shared a lot of new stuff. Including cabs for the 05 and 15 series.

Here are a couple of videos: